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We've got the choice now and it really comes down to: go it alone or be a small part in a super state.
****ed by a neo-liberal capitalist cabal or trampled by the jackboots of little englanders?
Hmmm.
Hmmm.
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This is because the Treasury's estimates are just for central government 'official' transactions relating to the EU budget and don't include direct transactions involving households.
Has he not already got concessions on immigration,social welfare payments etc which means he knows they are going nowhere but still gets his own way.
It costs us £8.5bn to be in the club, but it's nigh on impossible to say how much being a member benefits us financially. There are too many intangibles.
Of course. If it was a case of it costing Blighty £8.5b a year stone dead then they probably would have left years ago.
It's probably impossible to calculate.
OK, let's call it £8.5billion. Now explain to us what we stand to lose once we get that money back.
Basically "Out" are up £8.5billion from the off, what arguments do "In" have to convince us of their case?
I don't think anyone can know untill they leave. I have absolutely no idea.
I see Europe outwith the economic argument anyway.
One of my issues is taking the European Parliament on trust. We could vote to stay in then they shaft us by failing to vote for the changes agreed by the EU leaders.
That's a gamble.
That's a gamble.
You seemed pretty convinced that it would be a massive mistake to vote "Out" but now you offer no reason for voting "In"?