The Adam Johnson Trial

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fran-MLs little camera said:
One of the things that showed his true nature to me was that he was texting the girl using sexual language on either side of a text to his GF where he described a picture of his baby daughter as class. The same term as he was using within the same minute to a fifteen-year-old girl. Who describes their own child as 'class' and then just carries on (without interruption) in a sexy and illegal conversation. A picture of his own baby had no affect on him....whereas I bet it would make most people pause and think (however briefly) about what they were doing.
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Taking away the incident with the girl n what sort of prick refers to their newborn baby as class <doh>
 
fran-MLs little camera said:
I took that to mean that his brain (using the term loosely) was so engrossed with the other conversation that it couldn't switch to parenting mode and use terms such as lovely and adorable.
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I had an ex-girlfriend who was sadly completely unable to reject any kind of male attention - she craved it all - fantastic looking girl too, so she got a lot of it. She was never actually unfaithful physically, but she'd not tell potential suitors that she had a boyfriend because she knew that they'd then turn their attention elsewhere and that thought, for whatever historical/psychological reasons, terrified her. I had an inkling all this was going on (we actually got together whilst she was engaged to someone else, so it didn't exactly start high on the "hey, you're really trustworthy" scale) but I remember one time I'd taken her out to an event and in between chatting to me she was on her phone 'sexting' some other guy.

Suffice to say, that relationship didn't end well, but she was devastated when I dumped her. I genuinely believe she absolutely loved me as she said, but she was just able to compartmentalise things away to feed what was basically an addiction.

I can kinda see similarities in his behaviour. Very sad all round.
 
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Le Tissier's Laces said:
I had an ex-girlfriend who was sadly completely unable to reject any kind of male attention - she craved it all - fantastic looking girl too, so she got a lot of it. She was never actually unfaithful physically, but she'd not tell potential suitors that she had a boyfriend because she knew that they'd then turn their attention elsewhere and that thought, for whatever historical/psychological reasons, terrified her. I had an inkling all this was going on (we actually got together whilst she was engaged to someone else, so it didn't exactly start high on the "hey, you're really trustworthy" scale) but I remember one time I'd taken her out to an event and in between chatting to me she was on her phone 'sexting' some other guy.

Suffice to say, that relationship didn't end well, but she was devastated when I dumped her. I genuinely believe she absolutely loved me as she said, but she was just able to compartmentalise things away to feed what was basically an addiction.

I can kinda see similarities in his behaviour. Very sad all round.
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Glad you opened this with phrase ex-girlfriend. Hope you managed to find a less addicted partner, mate
 
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We've just been called back into court to hear that a member of the jury has a commitment tomorrow and Friday. It has not yet been said what impact this will have on the trial, should the jury still need more time to decide their verdicts.

The jury has been told by Judge Jonathan Rose that the individual should not feel anxious. He added they should not feel pressured to come to their decision.
They have left court to continue deliberations.

Read more: http://www.sunderlandecho.com/live/event#ixzz41l0rogZY

Could take a while this one....
 
JWP's Goal Celebration said:
We've just been called back into court to hear that a member of the jury has a commitment tomorrow and Friday. It has not yet been said what impact this will have on the trial, should the jury still need more time to decide their verdicts.

The jury has been told by Judge Jonathan Rose that the individual should not feel anxious. He added they should not feel pressured to come to their decision.
They have left court to continue deliberations.

Read more: http://www.sunderlandecho.com/live/event#ixzz41l0rogZY

Could take a while this one....
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I can see them not reaching a verdict.
 
Beefy said:
Making the girl having to go through it all again is disgusting?
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Oh sorry that took me a while - half asleep <laugh>

Agreed and said so but if they can't reach a verdict then what can you do?

I'm really suprised it's taking this long tbh, I thought it would be a pretty quick not guilty verdict. Suppose that's what happens when the judge asks for an unanimous verdict. Only takes 1 or 2 stubborn people who are so sure that they are right to make it drag all along.

Does anyone know if a judge can then go back and say a majority verdict will be enough? If an unanimous one can't be reached?
 
JWP's Goal Celebration said:
Oh sorry that took me a while - half asleep <laugh>

Agreed and said so but if they can't reach a verdict then what can you do?

I'm really suprised it's taking this long tbh, I thought it would be a pretty quick not guilty verdict. Suppose that's what happens when the judge asks for an unanimous verdict. Only takes 1 or 2 stubborn people who are so sure that they are right to make it drag all along.

Does anyone know if a judge can then go back and say a majority verdict will be enough? If an unanimous one can't be reached?
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I expect he can. It can't be less than 10:2 though.
 
JWP's Goal Celebration said:
Oh sorry that took me a while - half asleep <laugh>

Agreed and said so but if they can't reach a verdict then what can you do?

I'm really suprised it's taking this long tbh, I thought it would be a pretty quick not guilty verdict. Suppose that's what happens when the judge asks for an unanimous verdict. Only takes 1 or 2 stubborn people who are so sure that they are right to make it drag all along.

Does anyone know if a judge can then go back and say a majority verdict will be enough? If an unanimous one can't be reached?
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'Initially, the jury will be directed to try to reach a unanimous verdict. If they fail to reach a unanimous verdict, the judge may later (after not less than two hours[5]) give directions that a majority verdict will be acceptable, but still no less than ten to two, although the jury should continue to try to reach a unanimous verdict if possible.'

If they can't do this then it could be a retrial.
 
JWP's Goal Celebration said:
Oh sorry that took me a while - half asleep <laugh>

Agreed and said so but if they can't reach a verdict then what can you do?

I'm really suprised it's taking this long tbh, I thought it would be a pretty quick not guilty verdict. Suppose that's what happens when the judge asks for an unanimous verdict. Only takes 1 or 2 stubborn people who are so sure that they are right to make it drag all along.

Does anyone know if a judge can then go back and say a majority verdict will be enough? If an unanimous one can't be reached?
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As I understand it, it can be changed to 10-2 (10-1 if the jury drops to 11), but no less than that, or it will be a retrial.
 
Not guilty on count two. No decision on other charge.

Count 2 is the oral sex. Judge has said he wil accept a 10-2 majority on other charge.
 
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