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If you have an isolated striker and two marked wingers, the midfield 3 have no one to pass to, especially if they are outnumbered by a team with 5 in midfield. Most wingers are lazy buggers that don't want to work in midfield, so if you have a "flair" midfielder" in the mid 3 as well you only have two grafting in midfield. Unless they are superhuman you are going to get over run. I bet Colin has EVERY bugger working. Constantly conceding from set pieces for a pro team is a managerial sacking offence on its own.
Spot on. Doesn't matter whether we play Eaves or Magennis, they are always so isolated. And the 2 wingers last week whenever they got the ball were just regularly funnelled into channels whereby they had to beat 2 -3 players to create space for a cross (which they weren't very good at either). Was watching the game with my son - we've both played a lot of football over the years and seemed to us the sequence of things that would have to go right for City to score a goal was just ridiculously high. I'm convinced we could do better with a different system, with the existing squad of players, but I now suspect this manager doesn't know how to coach a different system.
 
Spot on. Doesn't matter whether we play Eaves or Magennis, they are always so isolated. And the 2 wingers last week whenever they got the ball were just regularly funnelled into channels whereby they had to beat 2 -3 players to create space for a cross (which they weren't very good at either). Was watching the game with my son - we've both played a lot of football over the years and seemed to us the sequence of things that would have to go right for City to score a goal was just ridiculously high. I'm convinced we could do better with a different system, with the existing squad of players, but I now suspect this manager doesn't know how to coach a different system.
2 points from the last 36 on offer, Terry is managing the team as Ehab is managing the club, both bloody useless!
 
With our lack of fullbacks, I wonder if we'd be better off going to a back 3? Plenty of options in centre back, could have De Wijs, Burke & Macdonald play together.

Maybe a 3-5-2? not with wingbacks as under Bruce but more wide midfielders/wingers. We wouldnt get overrun in midfield and could play 2 strikers.

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....Burke....Macdonald....De Wijs
Lopes..Stewart..Toral...Batty...Elder
..........Magennis...Scott

options upfront in Scott, Magennis, Eaves, KLP.. I think Samuelsen can play as a winger too.
 
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Very worrying listening to McCann again.
Irrespective of systems, I keep saying I just dont see where our goals will come from. I dont get so wound up about the odd set piece error, they are going to happen. The bigger problem is being so **** going forward. Eaves needs dropping. Magennis is better but not really the answer either. Maybe no option now but to put KLP upfront alongside Magennis? KLP is a natural goalscorer.
 
Very worrying listening to McCann again.
Irrespective of systems, I keep saying I just dont see where our goals will come from. I dont get so wound up about the odd set piece error, they are going to happen. The bigger problem is being so **** going forward. Eaves needs dropping. Magennis is better but not really the answer either. Maybe no option now but to put KLP upfront alongside Magennis? KLP is a natural goalscorer.

I’d stick Eaves and Magennis up front as 2 big lumps. Surely between the two of them they can hold the play up in the final third. I’d then play Toral behind the front two as an attacking midfielder.
 
I’d stick Eaves and Magennis up front as 2 big lumps. Surely between the two of them they can hold the play up in the final third. I’d then play Toral behind the front two as an attacking midfielder.
On the admittedly limited evidence we've had so far, KLP looks the most instinctive and intelligent striker we have (although cant comment on Scott yet). I would play one of KLP or Scott close to Eaves or Magennis, not 20 yards away. Toral always feels like cleverest player we have and therefore got to be worth starting, but rarely seen him play more than 30-45 minutes well. Even last week, he faded out of the game quite quickly.
 
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I don’t like watching Eaves and Magennis at the best of times, so sticking them together, no thanks.

Stick KLP off one of them.

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Pennington Burke De Wijs Elder
Scott Stewart Lopes Toral
KPL Magennis
 
I don’t like watching Eaves and Magennis at the best of times, so sticking them together, no thanks.

Stick KLP off one of them.

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Pennington Burke De Wijs Elder
Scott Stewart Lopes Toral
KPL Magennis

They both played together at home this season and they were actually quite effective. Needs must - and anything has to be better than the **** show we have to endure with one up front. 3 shots on target at home against a very poor Charlton team tells you everything you need to know.
 
Spot on. Doesn't matter whether we play Eaves or Magennis, they are always so isolated. And the 2 wingers last week whenever they got the ball were just regularly funnelled into channels whereby they had to beat 2 -3 players to create space for a cross (which they weren't very good at either). Was watching the game with my son - we've both played a lot of football over the years and seemed to us the sequence of things that would have to go right for City to score a goal was just ridiculously high. I'm convinced we could do better with a different system, with the existing squad of players, but I now suspect this manager doesn't know how to coach a different system.
He can’t coach this system.
 
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On the admittedly limited evidence we've had so far, KLP looks the most instinctive and intelligent striker we have (although cant comment on Scott yet). I would play one of KLP or Scott close to Eaves or Magennis, not 20 yards away. Toral always feels like cleverest player we have and therefore got to be worth starting, but rarely seen him play more than 30-45 minutes well. Even last week, he faded out of the game quite quickly.

Totally this - one big lump & one little fast fella playing off him...... tried & tested. Yet why won’t we go for it??????

Oh yeah because our manager is a useless ****
 
It's bloody obvious to everyone except the Manager that something has to change.
I would go with 3 at the back bring Burke back alongside JDW and McDonald.
Play Stewart as a holding midfielder just in front of the back 3 with Toral feeding 2 up front KLP (the only one likely to score) and Eaves or Magennis.
Kane and Bowler should be nowhere near the first 11 its surprising how poor they are being at Liverpool and Everton respectively.
 
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As we have an attacking front three, rather than traditional wingers and it doesn't seem that anyone in our squad can actually cross a ball, it makes a big target man rather useless. I'd play KLP, between Scott and Samuelsen (assuming McCann will still refuse to play two up top), at least with three tricky front men, we'd have a chance of scoring, particularly with Toral behind them.

I don't know why we'd switch to three at the back either, Elder would be okay on the left of this, but we don't have anyone capable of playing as a right wing back, unless you stick Lopes in there, but we really need him in the middle.
 
As we have an attacking front three, rather than traditional wingers and it doesn't seem that anyone in our squad can actually cross a ball, it makes a big target man rather useless. I'd play KLP, between Scott and Samuelsen (assuming McCann will still refuse to play two up top), at least with three tricky front men, we'd have a chance of scoring, particularly with Toral behind them.

I don't know why we'd switch to three at the back either, Elder would be okay on the left of this, but we don't have anyone capable of playing as a right wing back, unless you stick Lopes in there, but we really need him in the middle.
Then the two centre mids would be overrun with three up top plus Toral!?? Which is the problem now
 
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I'm sure we all pretty much all feel the same way GLP..... but spare a thought for a bloke called Assam Allam whose son has spunked away (apologies ladies ) the best part of £100 million of the families riches because he couldn't get a job anywhere else...
 
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