Terry Out

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Looks like he will be here til at least the weekend so it's something we are going to have to accept. A win which we all want obviously and he will carry on, lose and I don't know. One thing which is important which after recent games some will find hard to do but the support for the team is so important. Who ever and if someone else does come in he will have different ideas but what a difficult job to take on. A few have mentioned Nigel Adkins saying he would get more out of the players? Don't know maybe he would but let's not for get he had a defence with Burke, Lichaj and De Wijs playing and a forward line with Grosicki, Campbell and Bowen, six very decent championship players which would make a big difference to this team. Atkins wouldn't come back anyway but the point i am making is would Nigel get better out of the players or did he just have much better players available. Just an alternative view on the situation. However even with injuries only two points from the previous 33 is horrendous and if someone else could come in and organise this team defensively better it would be a good start.
-> but the point i am making is would Nigel get better out of the players

Yes. Without a doubt. He wouldn't persist week after week with something that isn't working, and he'd have them far better organised. Nige isn't daft.
 
Second paragraph, first sentence Richard. The point is, he isn't very clever at all is he. If that is actually true, then he is just playing with a toy that daddy bought him. We all thought that was the case (well most of us anyway).

Yes, I never thought he was particularly bright. He just uses managerial appointments to prove a point. I've also had him described as "a nice bloke", "a great boss" and, most worryingly, "a playboy who loves the lifestyle of being a football club owner" (among other less complimentary things). My point was, however, that I don't think we'll go down a predictable route should we look to replace McCann.
 
Yes, I never thought he was particularly bright. He just uses managerial appointments to prove a point. I've also had him described as "a nice bloke", "a great boss" and, most worryingly, "a playboy who loves the lifestyle of being a football club owner" (among other less complimentary things). My point was, however, that I don't think we'll go down a predictable route should we look to replace McCann.
So he'll sack Terry, then appoint himself! If he did that and then said he was going to let the team pick itself and play how they wanted I reckon we'd have a half decent chance of staying up!
I started this post as a joke, I'm not so sure now...
 
Absolutely this. I would also add McCann didn’t come to us blindly, he was friends with Adkins, spoke with Nige before hand, so knew the score and what he was coming in to. Whilst I sympathise re injuries, most of the squad assembled has been on his watch, and whilst we all question the quality of recruitment, whether L1 or Championship level, irrespective of quality there is absolutely no excuse for the lack of fight and effort on offer at Stoke. The stats from Sat are embarrassing; 8 tackles, 8 interceptions in 90 odd mins., players & McCann should be ashamed.

They looked defeated from the off, resigned to their fate. That is at McCann’s door. From the start, team selection; the only two players that look like they might be capable of doing something, Balogh and Maddison, on the bench. That is down to McCann. Balogh showed more in his 20 mins in his last match than Magennis in his last few matches.

It looks like cracks are now beginning to appear from the players, first Stewart last week questioned tactics, and this week Irvine mentioned in his interview the tactical approach. McCann & players may feel hurt by the chanting, not as hurt as the supporters who coff up their hard earned and as a bare minimum expect to see a bit of fight, pride and a shift put in, not just going through the motions.
Very good post
 
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Absolutely this. I would also add McCann didn’t come to us blindly, he was friends with Adkins, spoke with Nige before hand, so knew the score and what he was coming in to. Whilst I sympathise re injuries, most of the squad assembled has been on his watch, and whilst we all question the quality of recruitment, whether L1 or Championship level, irrespective of quality there is absolutely no excuse for the lack of fight and effort on offer at Stoke. The stats from Sat are embarrassing; 8 tackles, 8 interceptions in 90 odd mins., players & McCann should be ashamed.

They looked defeated from the off, resigned to their fate. That is at McCann’s door. From the start, team selection; the only two players that look like they might be capable of doing something, Balogh and Maddison, on the bench. That is down to McCann. Balogh showed more in his 20 mins in his last match than Magennis in his last few matches.

It looks like cracks are now beginning to appear from the players, first Stewart last week questioned tactics, and this week Irvine mentioned in his interview the tactical approach. McCann & players may feel hurt by the chanting, not as hurt as the supporters who coff up their hard earned and as a bare minimum expect to see a bit of fight, pride and a shift put in, not just going through the motions.

A game or two before Eaves got injured I recall Magennis stating in a post match interview that he'd like he and Eaves to be starting upfront together. I remember then thinking it was significant that he was questioning tactics publicly.
 
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A game or two before Eaves got injured I recall Magennis stating in a post match interview that he'd like he and Eaves to be starting upfront together. I remember then thinking it was significant that he was questioning tactics publicly.
They started upfront together against Preston where we were winning until Eaves got his injury!
 
Its bizarre eh? would love to know "why" we haven't fired him. My money's on the old man is grinning like Zippy from Rainbow at the thought of us going down.

Does it make financial sense? No. Do the Allams care? probably not. It'll be an excuse to cash in yet again and sell half the squad.

Terry Out, Allams Out.
 
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Its bizarre eh? would love to know "why" we haven't fired him. My money's on the old man is grinning like Zippy from Rainbow at the thought of us going down.

Does it make financial sense? No. Do the Allams care? probably not. It'll be an excuse to cash in yet again and sell half the squad.

Terry Out, Allams Out.

Of course they care. They reckon they are owed around £50 million still, and are still claiming a couple of million gift interest a year.
If we go down, they will know full well that they can kiss goodbye to that money.
And they can hardly 'cash in' again; there's next to nothing to cash in on, and cashing in as a team in division 3 is entirely different from cashing in as a team from division 2.
 
Its bizarre eh? would love to know "why" we haven't fired him. My money's on the old man is grinning like Zippy from Rainbow at the thought of us going down.

Does it make financial sense? No. Do the Allams care? probably not. It'll be an excuse to cash in yet again and sell half the squad.

Terry Out, Allams Out.

I don't understand how you reach the premise that the Allams don't care about the financial implications of relegation? After almost ten years of their ownership the one thing we do know that they care about is money, we go down and we're REALLY ****ed.
 
An old head on good wages until the end of the season with a huge bonus for staying up would be the wise option - much cheaper than the amount we'd lose from going down.

That would have been the wise choice a month or even a few weeks ago.

Now, it’s a gamble, one that could cause extra financial liabilities.
 
Its bizarre eh? would love to know "why" we haven't fired him. My money's on the old man is grinning like Zippy from Rainbow at the thought of us going down.

Does it make financial sense? No. Do the Allams care? probably not. It'll be an excuse to cash in yet again and sell half the squad.

Terry Out, Allams Out.
The squad is worth sweet fa right now, probably less than the drop in income we'd get if we're relegated. Not a reason to be grinning like Zippy (whoever he is).
 
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