Terry Out

[originallambrettaman]

If you take out every penny from your business and sell everything of value, then employ one of the cheapest available salesman to sell faulty stock and then the company goes bankrupt, is it the salesman's fault?

The rot has set in well beyond the manager. If everything if value is sold off, the ambition of the club is stunted, then the remaining players can't raise their game. It's basic sports psychology.

McCann signed 15 players in the current squad, they’re his players. He insists on playing 4-3-3, despite us no longer have players that suit that formation. We’re in a relegation battle and have been for many weeks, but up until a few weeks ago, McCann still claimed we were aiming for the play-offs. Yesterday’s showing was pathetic, utterly pathetic and McCann quite obviously has no idea how to change it, he says he’ll carry on doing the same thing and hoping for a different outcome.

 

[Mckechnie Orange]

Using his stats? You've not checked? You're either playing Devil's advocate or straight out taking the piss.

I'm err-ing towards the latter.

 

[Tony Angelino]

McCann signed 15 players in the current squad, they’re his players. He insists on playing 4-3-3, despite us no longer have players that suit that formation. We’re in a relegation battle and have been for many weeks, but up until a few weeks ago, McCann still claimed we were aiming for the play-offs. Yesterday’s showing was pathetic, utterly pathetic and McCann quite obviously has no idea how to change it, he says he’ll carry on doing the same thing and hoping for a different outcome.

I’m sure that’s the definition of “stupid” doing the same failing things and expecting different results

 

[originallambrettaman]

But I never said it did I?
I didn’t inferr I believed it or not,
what I said was in today’s age no one got a picture that I ever saw.
Now if some of the city players where out on the lash the night before a game you’d expect a stoke fan to get a pic.

You never saw a picture of Bullard, but it definitely happened, which rather negates your point.

 

[Heimdallr]

Using his stats? You've not checked? You're either playing Devil's advocate or straight out taking the piss.

I didn't check the exact number of points vs. games played for the period mentioned and didn't want a numerical error to distract from my point.

I'm not being devil's advocate, I'm expressing a personal opinion on a thread that has been started and contributed to heavily demanding a man lose his job for a poor run of results and performances over a 2.5 month period, when ca. £50 million has been siphoned out of a club over 5 years, when the club was in the top league for only one of those years...

 

[originallambrettaman]

We're in by far the worst form in the division for a sustained period.

Forget this division, we’re in the worst form of any club in English league football.

 

[Des Head]

I'm err-ing towards the latter.

Me too, but I was trying to be polite. If I was chatting to someone and they said they were a City fan and I replied "How about this ****ing **** run of form we're in" and they said "Oh, we're on a bad run, are we? I haven't ****ing checked", I think that would be the end of any future conversation.

 

[originallambrettaman]

I didn't check the exact number of points vs. games played for the period mentioned and didn't want a numerical error to distract from my point.

I'm not being devil's advocate, I'm expressing a personal opinion on a thread that has been started and contributed to heavily demanding a man lose his job for a poor run of results and performances over a 2.5 month period, when ca. £50 million has been siphoned out of a club over 5 years, when the club was in the top league for only one of those years...

Have you actually seen us play recently?

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

I didn't check the exact number of points vs. games played for the period mentioned and didn't want a numerical error to distract from my point.

I'm not being devil's advocate, I'm expressing a personal opinion on a thread that has been started and contributed to heavily demanding a man lose his job for a poor run of results and performances over a 2.5 month period, when ca. £50 million has been siphoned out of a club over 5 years, when the club was in the top league for only one of those years...

And you’ve given it
And most have said your opinions a load of ****e

 

[Tony Angelino]

You never saw a picture of Bullard, but it definitely happened, which rather negates your point.

How

 

[Des Head]

I didn't check the exact number of points vs. games played for the period mentioned and didn't want a numerical error to distract from my point.

I'm not being devil's advocate, I'm expressing a personal opinion on a thread that has been started and contributed to heavily demanding a man lose his job for a poor run of results and performances over a 2.5 month period, when ca. £50 million has been siphoned out of a club over 5 years, when the club was in the top league for only one of those years...

Don't get me wrong, you're free to express any opinion you wish, but that post was a major red flag.

 

[Mckechnie Orange]

I didn't check the exact number of points vs. games played for the period mentioned and didn't want a numerical error to distract from my point.

I'm not being devil's advocate, I'm expressing a personal opinion on a thread that has been started and contributed to heavily demanding a man lose his job for a poor run of results and performances over a 2.5 month period, when ca. £50 million has been siphoned out of a club over 5 years, when the club was in the top league for only one of those years...

You don't think averaging less than 0.2 points per game and shipping goals for fun isn't significant?

 

[originallambrettaman]

How

Bloody hell, if Bullard was out on the piss all the time, but you never saw a photo, then the fact that you didn’t see a photo of the players drinking in Stoke doesn’t mean it didn’t happen either.

 

[Heimdallr]

Have you actually seen us play recently?

Yes. Awful performances. But no surprise. You posted a table showing the club at 7th(?) for profitability on sales. The issue lies there. Years of disinvestment in the playing squad has resulted in this. A man was asked to stem the tide and putti G responsibility on him now is wrong.

 

[tigerscanada]

You don't think averaging less than 0.2 points per game and shipping goals for fun isn't significant?

An approx 94% failure rate.

 

[Heimdallr]

You don't think averaging less than 0.2 points per game and shipping goals for fun isn't significant?

I don't know where I've written about it being insignificant. It's very significant of years of corporate mismanagement.

 

[originallambrettaman]

Yes. Awful performances. But no surprise. You posted a table showing the club at 7th(?) for profitability on sales. The issue lies there. Years of disinvestment in the playing squad has resulted in this. A man was asked to stem the tide and putti G responsibility on him now is wrong.

As I said earlier, the state of the club is down to Ehab, but the **** team selections, **** formations, **** substitutions, inability to motivate the players are down to McCann, he doesn’t get a let-off for being crap, just because Ehab’s a ****.

 

[Heimdallr]

Don't get me wrong, you're free to express any opinion you wish, but that post was a major red flag.

You post an opinion, someone else disagrees and explains why, as I've done. That's what makes a discussion. If it's a red flag, then the forum format isn't for you.

 

[Tony Angelino]

Bloody hell, if Bullard was out on the piss all the time, but you never saw a photo, then the fact that you didn’t see a photo of the players drinking in Stoke doesn’t mean it didn’t happen either.

Woah bloody hell I never said it didn’t happen ffs lambo who’s rattled your ****ing cage. I just said you’d have thought a stoke fan who saw city players out the night before a game would have taken a pic to prove his point on a message board. Your the ****er that’s dissecting it

 

[tigerscanada]

Yes. Awful performances. But no surprise. You posted a table showing the club at 7th(?) for profitability on sales. The issue lies there. Years of disinvestment in the playing squad has resulted in this. A man was asked to stem the tide and putti G responsibility on him now is wrong.

He obviously accepted that responsibility. He has a 94% failure rate in the last 11 league games. He duped the owners (who know bugger-all about football) into hiring him. A serious freefall. He's equally to blame in the recent demise, if not more to blame.