Off Topic Terrorists attacks in Brussels

[Chaz]

It's just different interpretations of the same texts. I'm sure these people think that peaceful Muslims living in the West are not 'proper Muslims' and probably don't care that they will be killing some of them along with the Kaffirs.

Would you consider the Saudi regime 'proper Muslims', Chaz? There's a PBS documentary due to air in this country next week, which will show some of the horrors that take place in a 'legitimate' lslamic state - one of our bigger trading partners.

A 'regime' cannot be seen as indicative of a faith - only individuals. I see a lot of what the reports show the Saudis doing as pretty abhorrent, but I don't take it as a blanket indication of how the average Saudi muslim feels and believes.

 

[durbar2003]

A 'regime' cannot be seen as indicative of a faith - only individuals. I see a lot of what the reports show the Saudis doing as pretty abhorrent, but I don't take it as a blanket indication of how the average Saudi muslim feels and believes.

Especially the women who are beheaded in the street!

 

[Rangers Til I Die]

The polarised views on this forum are well established and unlikely to change through the sort of debate we engage in on here.

I hope we can all agree that it is better for us to offer thoughts and prayers (if so inclined) to the grieving and injured at this tragic time.

Vincent Kompany has set a very good and noble example in his tweet.

 

[factamondo]

That boney elbowed skeletor needs to be replaced!

 

[durbar2003]

The polarised views on this forum are well established and unlikely to change through the sort of debate we engage in on here.

I hope we can all agree that it is better for us to offer thoughts and prayers (if so inclined) to the grieving and injured at this tragic time.

Vincent Kompany has set a very good and noble example in his tweet.

Of course my thoughts are with all those who died and were injured, prayers are not going to help.

 

[sb_73]

The polarised views on this forum are well established and unlikely to change through the sort of debate we engage in on here.

I hope we can all agree that it is better for us to offer thoughts and prayers (if so inclined) to the grieving and injured at this tragic time.

Vincent Kompany has set a very good and noble example in his tweet.

It's also cathartic to get things off your chest, though it's unlikely that anybody will change their mind, and some opinions may be repellant to some. Think of it as a cry of frustration and rage, and be thankful we have a relatively safe place to do it and aren't out on the streets making things worse.

Death toll mounting, respect to all those killed and hurt through no fault of their own.

 

[QPR Oslo]

Dreadful news & my thoughts go out those caught in the bombing, Pure scum those terrorists.

Yes. Whoever does this kind of thing is extremely sick scum. Whatever their religious belief or poltical persuasion. There was an equally or possibly even more sick, if such is comparable, scum ( he specifically targeted kids), a Norwegian fascist who did something similar a few years ago where I have been living. And others. This evil is not only done in the name of Islam. Whatever the excuse it is evil.

 

[Belfasthoop]

Christianity has its fair share of fundamentalists too, plenty of whom have murdered for the sake of Religion.

Muslims are not responsible for the acts of a bunch of hate mongers who have nothing good in their life, and who use Religion as an excuse to further their own warped agenda's.

Hatred and mistrust will cloud your views and eventually blind you. Trust me on that.

 

[Belfasthoop]

The haters should be isolated, not ordinary people of any or no faiths.

 

[Chaz]

Of course my thoughts are with all those who died and were injured, prayers are not going to help.

This is a thread about the atrocities in Brussels, not a place to throw out cheap anti-religion jibes. This is exactly what RTID was saying, and you agreed by doing just what he said we should avoid. So you're not helping things mate...

 

[factamondo]

The world be a
better place with no religion whatsoever....

 

[rangercol]

Your initial post that there is no point getting into this again is right. And so is Stroller. It makes no difference what a 'true Muslim' is, the perpetrators of these attacks regard themselves as following the purest form of Islam that there is, to the extent that they will blow themselves up in the process. The decent Muslims are no more 'proper' than these nutters, they just interpret the same texts in different ways, that are more acceptable to you. It's obviously a problem generated by Islam, in addition to poverty and ignorance.

Not wishing to derail the thread but it is the ****ing religion. They are Islamic fundamentalists who want to destroy our way of life.

Both absolutely spot on.

 

[rangercol]

Didn't a similar thing happen in London a few years ago. I'm not sure our security services are any better than those in Belgium!

Our security services are among the best in the world.
Unfortunately, the Belgians aren't.

There have been countless attacks thwarted here. A few you would of heard about. Many many more you wouldn't.

 

[factamondo]

I agree our security services are second to none when it comes to uncovering terrorist plots before they can strike...

 

[GoldhawkRoad]

Free movement makes no difference. Intelligence and security controls do.

This from the Guardian last November:

"The Syria-based Belgian jihadi suspected of planning the bloody attacks that killed 129 people in Paris died a day ago in a hail of police bullets, French officials confirmed, raising serious questions about how one of Europe’s most wanted men could travel freely around the continent.

Confirmation that a top terrorist suspect had travelled into and through the EU from Syria on at least two occasions in the past 12 months, passing checks in countries including Belgium and Germany without alarms being triggered, has put European leaders under intense pressure to get a grip on Europe’s external and internal borders."

 

[ELLERS]

Belgian has the highest amount of people in Europe leaving the country to be jihadist.

Our security services are among the best in the world. Unfortunately, the Belgians aren't.
and
I agree our security services are second to none when it comes to uncovering terrorist plots before they can strike...

Agree our security services are good but i listened to an ex-security service chief on Radio4 who said it's not NCIS/James Bond stuff it's been about luck and we won't be able to stop it if it happens here. Chilling words which bring it into perspective.

 

[GoldhawkRoad]

My point is 999's, some people were quick enough to jump on this thread to try to justify their Brexit beliefs and point a finger at the EU. This atrocity has nothing to do with the EU. It would appear (or least the Belgian authorities are speculating) that the lads responsible for this attack were home grown naturalised Belgians just as the 7/7 terrorists were naturalised British born citizens. To think that only 5 hours ago a few dozen people lost their lives and scores more were injured and scarred for life and some people think it is ample opportunity to justify their own beliefs on Brexit.

It may well have something to do with Schengen, Finglas, which is fundamental to the EU on the Continent of Europe.

It seems likely that this is a revenge attack for the recent arrest of Abdeslam. That being so, wherever they are born, the perpetrators are ISIS operatives and as such would probably obtain their instructions and bomb making components from Syria or Iraq. Abdeslam and his compatriots travelled freely in the borderless zone.

The more this evil seeps through to the UK, the more likely there will be an attack on London

 

[Eamon Holmes]

They are not from Yorkshire though really are they what part of them and the way they lived their life was remotely quintessential British or Yorkshireish hahahaha

They hated England , were from Asian decent and are Muslim tell me what makes them Yorkshire folk ?

Germaine Lindsay was Jamaican living in Buckinghamhire.

His other half is "The White Widow", Samantha Lewthwaite, white, English born and bred in Buckinghamshire. Gone on to to even worse than him.

 

[finglasqpr]

It may well have something to do with Schengen, Finglas, which is fundamental to the EU on the Continent of Europe.

It seems likely that this is a revenge attack for the recent arrest of Abdeslam. That being so, wherever they are born, the perpetrators are ISIS operatives and as such would probably obtain their instructions and bomb making components from Syria or Iraq. Abdeslam and his compatriots travelled freely in the borderless zone.

The more this evil seeps through to the UK, the more likely there will be an attack on London

Why don't we turn every thread into a discussion on Brexit Goldy?

I find it stomach churning that you have turned this thread into a discussion to suit your Brexit beliefs, considering the fact that there is a separate thread to discuss the issue that is so close to your heart. Personally, I am more concerned with the victims and their families.

 

[TWGWTDT]

Haven't watched any of it nor will I
Best to think about the loss of human life nothing else IMO
Saying that more people died today in Europe because of Flu
IMO never let the fear win
You can't stop these ****bags and to start comparing security services is stupid why the blame game?
I like to study any other news on days like these because there will be important things done and hidden today IMO
We are soft targets today
How many dead? I have no idea but one is enough to me so I bet the deadlines lead with numbers?