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Tributes paid to police officer in fatal bus crash
Tributes have been paid to an off duty police officer who died after being hit by a bus in Swansea. Louise Lucas, 41, was an officer who served with South Wales Police. Her colleagues described her as a 'force of nature that brightened any room'. An eight-year-old girl was also taken to hospital with injuries.

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  1. 31 March 2015 at 9:45pm
Police officer and 'devoted mother and wife' killed in Swansea bus crash
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Credit: Wales News
The 41-year-old woman who died after being hit by a bus in Swansea has been named as Louise Lucas, an officer who served with South Wales Police.

Louise most recently served in the Llanishen area of Cardiff where it's said she served with 'pride and enthusiasm'.

Chair of the South Wales Police Federation Steve Trigg led tributes to her tonight saying she was a 'force of nature that brightened any room'.

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Mourning the loss of Sergeant Louise Lucas. Thanks for all your messages of support. Our thoughts this evening are with her family [HASHTAG]#RIP[/HASHTAG]

21:16 - 31 Mar 2015
"Her tragic passing at such a young age will leave a huge gap within South Wales Police, her friends who loved her, but most importantly for her family, who have lost a devoted mother and wife.

Words at this painful time can provide little consolation, but as part of her police family, we share the sense of grief and loss at her passing and hope to help her children, husband, family and friends come to terms with their loss."

– STEVE TRIGG, CHAIR, SWP FEDERATION

Crossing that damn Kingsway is taking your life in your hands.
RIP.
 
Woman Killed In Bus Collision Named
Wednesday, April 1st 2015 07:00

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Woman killed after being hit by a bus on Swansea's Kingsway yesterday morning has been named as 41-year-old Louise Lucas.

Police are investigating a fatal road traffic collision which happened at the Kingsway in Swansea shortly before 11.25am on Tuesday 31st March.

The incident happened near the junction of Union Street.

The off-duty police officer from South Wales Police was airlifted to Morriston Hospital with serious injuries where she later died. Her eight-year-old daughter was also taken to hospital with minor injuries.

Inspector Steve Davies of the South Wales Police Roads Policing Unit said: “Our thoughts are with the family at this very sad time and they are being supported by specially trained officers.

“I would also like to pay tribute to the efforts of the emergency services at the scene in very difficult circumstances.”

The Kingsway was closed for several hours and the public are thanked for their understanding and patience while collision investigation work took place at the scene.

A First Cymru spokesperson:

"We can confirm that one of our vehicles, which was operating on Service X11 towards Llanelli, was involved in an incident on Tuesday morning, whereby a female pedestrian was in collision with a bus on the Kingsway in Swansea. Paramedics were called to the scene and the pedestrian was taken to hospital by ambulance. A young girl – thought to be the lady’s daughter - was also taken to hospital to be checked over.

"The exact cause of the incident is not yet known, but this will be fully investigated. Our team is currently working with the police to establish exactly what happened.

"Our thoughts are currently with the lady and the child involved in the incident and their family and friends."
 
I was nearly knocked over last year by a bus close to Tesco in town. I'm normally really careful but the two way lanes are confusing even for us locals. The bus driver stopped the bus about three feet away and blared his horn at me. It scared the life out of me. This was bound to happen. It's not the first and it won't be the last. RIP. <rose>
 
"Terrible.Now do something about it!!!"

So what do you suggest? Either you make the Kingsway traffic free, or you'll have to look left, or right, or both. So much headwork.
 
It has been an accident waiting to happen even though others have been hit or near missed, this is someone who has a high profile due to her job so i hope now someone will listen and make the whole of the centre of Swansea traffic free......Deliveries can be done after 7pm and 7am only with no acception unless in emergencies. condolences to her family...RIP<rose>
 
You maybe right about the latest victim being high profile which may force the highway department to act but she isn't the first to have died on that stretch of road , and as you say there have been many near misses reported , but how many have not been .The whole layout has been an unmitigated disaster from the start but unlike the failed attempt to turn Morriston into a one way system ,which lasted less than a year how much money will the council have to spend to return it to some semblance of order .Who actually has ever said what a great idea it was to waste all that money on a system no one wanted ?
 
Coming out of the Co-op Bank I looked to the right, which is the normal direction for traffic on a dual carriageway, went to step out and suddenly remembered traffic comes from the opposite direction. Surely it is common sense and not too difficult, even allowing for buses, to revert to a normal dual carriageway flow. But then the planners in Swansea have never been known for their commonsense.
 
It looks like the council are going to re-route all buses that are using the kingsway according to the news so with a bit of luck they will go all the way and ban all traffic from the centre of Swansea altogether.....
 
BeanFlicker said:
"Terrible.Now do something about it!!!"

So what do you suggest? Either you make the Kingsway traffic free, or you'll have to look left, or right, or both. So much headwork.
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A woman loses her life,a young girl loses her mother.
You sir with your remarks disgust me.Hang your head in shame,though I guess you have no shame or you would not have made that post.
 
The quality of some of these bus drivers leaves a lot to be desired, I have often blasted my horn at some of the diabolical driving, but more importantly the speed these bus drivers are doing in pedestrian areas should be something South Wales Police should be addressing, they drive far too fast for my liking, it's bad enough being hit by a car, but a bus is an altogether different ball park. They should be limited to 20 MPH in densely crowded City centres......<ok>
 
I disagree Dragonphiljack. I am a motorist and consider myself a careful driver. I also use the buses frequently into the centre of Swansea when attending Morriston and Singleton Hospitals because of the parking problems at both. I have never found any of the bus drivers to be anything other than careful and considerate. Now taxi drivers that's another matter.
 
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DragonPhilljack said:
The quality of some of these bus drivers leaves a lot to be desired, I have often blasted my horn at some of the diabolical driving, but more importantly the speed these bus drivers are doing in pedestrian areas should be something South Wales Police should be addressing, they drive far too fast for my liking, it's bad enough being hit by a car, but a bus is an altogether different ball park. They should be limited to 20 MPH in densely crowded City centres......<ok>
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There is already a 20mph speed limit in force on the Kingsway
 
I feel it is an awful tragedy, but aren't there crossing lights there, was she using them. I know it is a confusing road system there and needs changing drastically as it has always been an accident waiting to happen but I cannot believe there are no crossing facilities there.
 
I may not be the flavour of the month with this opinion, but why is it, that because someone has crossed a road irresponsibly with a child, that everyone forgets who the blame lies with.

As much as I feel sorry for the women, and also her family regarding this tragic incident. She was hit by a bus, near a pedestrian crossing, which she failed to use altogether. What sort of example does that set the child?

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Look at the bus location, and look 10 yards in front of it, there are traffic lights, of which there is a crossing with it. The issue is people crossing where they are not supposed to cross. Yes the council could make it safer by changing it all again, but I don't want a nanny state. Barriers would be more than enough in my opinion, stop people crossing where they are not supposed too, and take responsibility for themselves and not have to be handled with cotton wool.

I have driven my whole life, personally and professionally, and have had my fair number of close calls, its about time people started respecting the road and the vehicles that use it. No matter what the road, you ALWAYS look both ways regardless. Never assume anything, assumption is a dangerous game to play.
 
swanselona said:
I may not be the flavour of the month with this opinion, but why is it, that because someone has crossed a road irresponsibly with a child, that everyone forgets who the blame lies with.

As much as I feel sorry for the women, and also her family regarding this tragic incident. She was hit by a bus, near a pedestrian crossing, which she failed to use altogether. What sort of example does that set the child?

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Look at the bus location, and look 10 yards in front of it, there are traffic lights, of which there is a crossing with it. The issue is people crossing where they are not supposed to cross. Yes the council could make it safer by changing it all again, but I don't want a nanny state. Barriers would be more than enough in my opinion, stop people crossing where they are not supposed too, and take responsibility for themselves and not have to be handled with cotton wool.

I have driven my whole life, personally and professionally, and have had my fair number of close calls, its about time people started respecting the road and the vehicles that use it. No matter what the road, you ALWAYS look both ways regardless. Never assume anything, assumption is a dangerous game to play.
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Shall we fine people for jaywalking as in other countries?Only go on green,as in driving.
 
Far from it, but lets not forget that its a persons choice to cross in a place that is not there for crossing, so its wrong to pass the blame if and when things go wrong. And if you are not crossing on a pedestrian crossing, its your responsibility to be extra vigilant. It's not for anyone else to look out for you, its on you.

What bothers me, is she was crossing the road, not on a pedestrian crossing, with a young child. I am sorry, but you need to be super vigilant when with a child. The Kingsway is not exactly the quietest road around is it.

Even on a one way street I look both ways, and teach my niece to do the same. As I mentioned, assumption is a dangerous game to play when dealing with a public highway.
 
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There is already a 20mph speed limit in force on the Kingsway
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Well there is no way the Buses stick to it, and if she had been hit at 20 mph, then she would more than likely be alive, as the stats prove that 90% survive.................<ok>
 
DragonPhilljack said:
Well there is no way the Buses stick to it, and if she had been hit at 20 mph, then she would more than likely be alive, as the stats prove that 90% survive.................<ok>
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There is a difference to being hit by a car, that weights about 1 tonne, over a bus that weighs multiple. There is also a very big difference in ground clearance, your more likely to go under a bus than you are a car. There is also a very big difference in the shape of the vehicles, when hit by a car, your more than likely to end up on the bonnet, thus increasing your chances of survival, that is not the same as a bus, as grim as it sounds, the only way is down when hit by a bus. There is also a big difference in the stopping distance between a car and a bus. In many cases brakes may not be applied until the last second, a bus will travel further than a car will, which will increase the chances of increased injuries. So yes, you may well have a 90% chance of survival when hit at 20mph, but those stats are heavily influenced by accidents with cars, not buses.

It is also a bold statement to make regarding the speed the bus was travelling, your comment seems to make out that you are sure the bus driver was speeding, yet yit is based on no fact. So IMO is a bit of a silly statement if you ask me. That driver may have been doing the speed limit, and may have done nothing wrong, yet he will have to live with this incident for the rest of his life.
 
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You are saying that phil's post is a bold statement, yet yours saying that this person was basically negligent crossing the road. You are not in fact in possession of the facts, have you considered that the bus may have been moved away from the scene to allow emergency access, have you considered that the lady may have been using the crossing?

Even with barriers this could have happened, you with your condescendIng post saying with the benefit of hindsight what this person should have done is frankly sickening, do you think she wanted to be killed? Do you think that she wanted her child to be injured ?

The council are to be blamed here for a lot of this with their madcap car hating stance, they created a situation where the traffic flows in the wrong direction in one dual carriage way, then immediately in a two way system in the next. Then they divert all traffic through the kingsway if you are going westbound to the uplands.

They have caused chaos and practically killed the city centre, the kingsway is a place of boarded up shops and pubs, where once it was bustling with shoppers now it's like a ghost town!

Your assumptions are plainly not based on any facts as you are just basing it on an image and that is it, think you should wait until the police have investigated this instead of you using your superior levels of hindsight, and with the crap that you have driven all your life, really !?!
 
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