You are saying that phil's post is a bold statement, yet yours saying that this person was basically negligent crossing the road. You are not in fact in possession of the facts, have you considered that the bus may have been moved away from the scene to allow emergency access, have you considered that the lady may have been using the crossing?
I apologise, and your right, I am not in possession of the facts, but my initial opinion is based on the picture, and not just imagined out of thin air, I have taken a look at the position of the bus, and if anyone moved it from the scene and parked it like that, then it would most likely have been moved a very short distance to allow access, but not far enough that the police couldn't use its positioning for any investigation. The bus is in a position you would expect after a collision, in that it looks as if he has swerved to avoid contact. It may be that the bus has been moved a long way, but then it most likely would not have been left in that position. That is far more to go on than Phil saying he was speeding with nothing to go on other than whats in his head.
My reasoning to using the term irresponsibly was not meant in a bad way, but that people seem to think its because she may not have looked right, and for me, that is irresponsible no matter the situation, but even more so when you have a child with you.
Even with barriers this could have happened, you with your condescendIng post saying with the benefit of hindsight what this person should have done is frankly sickening, do you think she wanted to be killed? Do you think that she wanted her child to be injured ?
Sickening you say, why, because I won't do what some do and only consider the position of the deceased? And only think and talk about what we could have done to prevent the incident by pointing the finger elsewhere? I feel very bad for her and her family, no-one deserves to go through that. I also won't go blaming one side, without also considering the blame on the other side of the coin too. People need to take responsibility for themselves, I don't expect you to look after my well being, or anyone else for that matter, I am able to look out for myself, as no doubt the young lady did, unfortunately she may (or may not, as we don't have the facts) have made a lapse in judgement which has resulted in a horrible accident. After all, that is what the bulk of the arguments are about, in that people don't think to look the other way when crossing the Kingsway, so it is deemed dangerous, and as a result, changes should be made to make it safer. Where as I look at in a way that it could in fact be made safer, but at the same time people need to be more aware of the surroundings, and I am not just on about anyone who has been involved in a bump on the Kingsway, but everyone. I see it often enough outside my own flat, where people cross the road without looking and come close to being knocked over. I am not saying that this is what the lady would have done, but its the big discussion on why the kingsway should be changed, people not thinking to look right.
If a person is killed in a car accident when speeding, would you think it wrong to say he/she shouldn't have been speeding, its the same thing, just in a different light, saying what they should and could have done differently. Or are we not allowed to talk about that these days? Are we only to feel pity and not question to what may or may not have happened, and what could have been done to prevent it, in this case from both a council standpoint and a personal standpoint?
The council are to be blamed here for a lot of this with their madcap car hating stance, they created a situation where the traffic flows in the wrong direction in one dual carriage way, then immediately in a two way system in the next. Then they divert all traffic through the kingsway if you are going westbound to the uplands.
They have caused chaos and practically killed the city centre, the kingsway is a place of boarded up shops and pubs, where once it was bustling with shoppers now it's like a ghost town!
I agree it is a crap layout, I have said so since it was introduced. But that doesn't make it dangerous. I still maintain that people should be more aware of their surroundings than pointing the finger elsewhere.
But lets face it, its not the only reason why the city centre is dead. On-line shopping affects shops, the smoking ban has always affected pubs. Are all the boarded up pubs around Swansea also a result in poor road layout planning? I live in Port Talbot, we don't have an issue with a poorly designed road layout, yet our town centre is still crap, with boarded up shops.
Your assumptions are plainly not based on any facts as you are just basing it on an image and that is it, think you should wait until the police have investigated this instead of you using your superior levels of hindsight, and with the crap that you have driven all your life, really !?!
Yet its ok for those who want to lay blame solely on the council and the road layout? OR a speeding bus? Interesting, so we are only allowed a 1 sided blame game until the facts are in. And the closest thing we have to any idea of what happened, which is a picture, is not allowed to be used to discuss it. Very interesting indeed.
