Off Topic Ten German Bombers.

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Carmine Galante.

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Offensive or not?

For me, it’s much ado about nothing.

I’d just like to point out that the Scottish National Anthem makes reference to beating the English at war.

Not seen as offensive at all, they sing it with pride. All of them.

What’s the difference?
 
Might be effective as a wind up in parts of the east where the majority of the far right still live. Everywhere else they just laugh I imagine
 
Offensive or not?

For me, it’s much ado about nothing.

I’d just like to point out that the Scottish National Anthem makes reference to beating the English at war.

Not seen as offensive at all, they sing it with pride. All of them.

What’s the difference?

Yeah I agree with the above, it’s not really offensive, it’s just a fair bit cringey.
 
Offensive or not?

For me, it’s much ado about nothing.

I’d just like to point out that the Scottish National Anthem makes reference to beating the English at war.

Not seen as offensive at all, they sing it with pride. All of them.

What’s the difference?

The Scottish National anthem doesn’t specifically talk about shooting planes down multiple times in one song - nor is it the full point of the lyrics. Its quite different.

I guess it’s not overly offensive considering what the German planes stood for - but I still find it a bit crass and overly celebratory for death and destruction that occurred in recent memory.
 
You mean where the former communists still live?

You are corrects it's true that the AfD is much much stronger in the former Communist parts of Germany yes. Including those who were born since unification.

I was chatting to a colleague from Munich about it last week and his view was lack of prospects in the East and much higher unemployment even after all these years.
 
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The Scottish National anthem doesn’t specifically talk about shooting planes down multiple times in one song - nor is it the full point of the lyrics. Its quite different.

I guess it’s not overly offensive considering what the German planes stood for - but I still find it a bit crass and overly celebratory for death and destruction that occurred in recent memory.

Well, it wouldn’t mention airplanes as it refers to events 7 centuries before airplanes were invented.
Neither does it mention the battle of Culloden 4 centuries later when we whupped them.
Or that they begged to join the Union to stave off bankruptcy.
Maybe the Furies could bring their 1970’s song up to date.
 
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You are corrects it's true that the AfD is much much stronger in the former Communist parts of Germany yes. Including those who were born since unification.

I was chatting to a colleague from Munich about it last week and his view was lack of prospects in the East and much higher unemployment even after all these years.

Some of the worst soccer hooligans are at clubs in the former communist half.
 
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Some of the worst soccer hooligans are at clubs in the former communist half.
They are, but they're mainly far right leaning. Dresden and Rostock in particular. Stockholm is right, the job prospects are poor there. Not sure why but there has been a real shift to the right there rather than back left because of this
 
They are, but they're mainly far right leaning. Dresden and Rostock in particular. Stockholm is right, the job prospects are poor there. Not sure why but there has been a real shift to the right there rather than back left because of this
I did a bit of work in the east in the mid ‘90s and there was widespread pro-Nazi graffiti even then. At the time I thought it was a reaction to reunification and trying to reclaim a ‘glorious’ past, but 30 years later you’d maybe think not.

N.B. I’ve put glorious in inverted commas ‘cos I couldn’t think of a better word for what they believe, but I categorically don’t think the third reich was in any way glorious.