Match Day Thread Tangerines

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Nuggets said:
Warnock is 71 and has openly said that he will retire from football management in the summer. We could maybe tempt him into an 18-month contract, if he can get us promoted this season, but next season in the Championship with Ipswich would be like the Rotherham job Warnock took on. Namely trying to keep an unfancied team up, and it would not be pretty to watch. But maybe that’s preferable to most fans over a failed attempt at promotion and stagnation in League One? However, say Warnock keeps us up in the Championship and retires next summer, what would we be left with? Possibly we’d be in a similar situation to when McCarthy left - a squad with a few stand-out players but a lack of style, identity, and footballing ability. A squad favoured to go back down to League One.

What this season needed to be was a big rebuilding job and a tilt at promotion. To establish an identity and clear signs of on-field development and success. In some respects, Lambert has been let down by an owner unwilling to finance a big reshuffle, but ultimately the poor results are his fault. There are no discernible signs of progress on the pitch, granted we’ve been playing better over the last couple of games. However, he spent half this season chopping and changing formations and personnel, while also ducking challenges and postponing games when we were in good form. The players have already reportedly aired issues around the constant rotations, which have not resulted in an upturn in form. We have no incisiveness on the pitch, we resort to aimless long balls far too often, and we’re unable to beat semi-decent teams in this division. Lambert has had three transfer windows and a lot of time with this squad, and we still look directionless and lacking a plan A.

Despite not being his biggest fan, I think Lambert should be given the full season to try and get sixth place - which is still achievable in what has been a division containing mostly poor-quality teams that lack consistency (of which we are certainly one of them right now). If we fail to reach the play off places, then Lambert should be replaced in the summer. We need somebody to provide some leadership and establish a philosophy and playing style that will yield results and good performances. We need a coach that can get the best out of these players on the training pitch. I don’t have trust in Lambert to achieve this.
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Not every one's cup of tea I know but I think Joey Barton would be a perfect fit, he is a strong character and has proven to get the best out of his team and can work on a limited budget
He would certainly shake them out of their malaise
 
YorkieLancsHampyLondoner said:
and it’s about Ellis Harrison who most on this board absolutely panned last season.
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Well, he was poor in the Championship last season. I think he only scored two or three goals in all competitions, albeit injuries were an issue.

I think most of us on here questioned the judgement of selling Harrison to a promotion rival. He played well last night, but it’s worth pointing out that John Marquis is their main striker and Ronan Curtis is arguably their best attacking player. Good luck to Harrison though, hopefully he’ll get further opportunities in the Championship next season, but by working with a better coaching staff than what he had here last year - maybe he'll be better?
 
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Southcoastoldgaffer said:
It is surely no coincidence that most of our players off loaded in recent years, discover their best form and score goals for fun!
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Departing players do have a habit of doing well elsewhere, which I think is a criticism of the set-up at the club, the physio department, and of course the quality of the coaching. Take a club like Portsmouth, while we’re on the topic of them, and they’ve taken Matt Clarke, Brett Pitman, and Ellis Harrison from us in recent years. They’ve got those players performing consistently and better than what they did for us. The lad Clarke is on the books of a Premier League club. On a wider basis, we know the likes of Bart, Webster, Waghorn, and McGoldrick are good players, but since leaving the club, they have prospered elsewhere (in the Premier League, in two of those cases). In that respect, it displays the lack of forward-thinking at the club and our inability to retain our big assets. With the financial constraints we are working under, as well as a low Championship wage budget, selling off the odd good player is unfortunately a necessary evil to remain financially competitive, without any further outside investment. Then you’ve got odd cases like Hourihane and Keiffer Moore who are playing well in the Championship but never impressed for us.
 
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Nuggets said:
Departing players do have a habit of doing well elsewhere, which I think is a criticism of the set-up at the club, the physio department, and of course the quality of the coaching. Take a club like Portsmouth, while we’re on the topic of them, and they’ve taken Matt Clarke, Brett Pitman, and Ellis Harrison from us in recent years. They’ve got those players performing consistently and better than what they did for us. The lad Clarke is on the books of a Premier League club. On a wider basis, we know the likes of Bart, Webster, Waghorn, and McGoldrick are good players, but since leaving the club, they have prospered elsewhere (in the Premier League, in two of those cases). In that respect, it displays the lack of forward-thinking at the club and our inability to retain our big assets. With the financial constraints we are working under, as well as a low Championship wage budget, selling off the odd good player is unfortunately a necessary evil to remain financially competitive, without any further outside investment. Then you’ve got odd cases like Hourihane and Keiffer Moore who are playing well in the Championship but never impressed for us.
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it’s a very long list of very capable players either underperforming for our club or performing but not being valued and the only common factor in our failure is Marcus Evans.

The matches I saw of Kiefer Moore I could see what he was capable of - Hourihane didn’t get the opportunity.
 
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