Tan Interview

Can't see why anyone would think Tan wants out. What he craves is success to mirror his business interests in SE Asia. He obviously has the acumen to achieve it, but not the knowledge of this sector in which he's invested so heavily.

I very much doubt he'll cut and run despite the tone of his interview rhetoric. He'll push, push and push again not to be seen as having failed - in his culture, that's probably a far bigger fear than actual failure itself.

He may seem to be blaming others for our present position, but if you read between the lines, he's actually admitting that he considers it to have been his own mistake and has set about putting it right.

No Tan arse licking for me neither, I just saw him as a necessary provider of funds to bail us out 3 years back when we'd been actually on our arses for 5 years with Ridsdale fire fighting the Revenue et al. We are in the Prem right now and may well be back in the Champ next season - I'll take that any day as opposed to the alternative option before he arrived.

I consider Tan to be a transient owner who will be gone one day, but not before he pushes this club toward becoming an established Premier League side. He has the money and will spend it to achieve success. That's all he wants and at the moment, we as supporters are irrelevant in all this. He will do it his way like it or lump it - that's the way it is.

 

From an outside point of view, he seems very confrontational with the fans? I wouldn't have imagined he treated his business customers back home like that, he has an attitude of take it or leave it. With regard to his comments on ownership of the club, and apologies from the fans, you cannot rule out that he might well be positioning himself for an early exit should you go down..........................

 

He wants out.

I've just seen the article and without a doubt he's fed up.


Some things that I found to be just childish;

"Maybe they should apologise".

"I will not be changing to blue. Someone wants to buy me out and change it? Sure.....*laughs*"

"Sometimes I wonder why I bought Cardiff...*laughs*"




I just think that the sooner Football gets rid of him, the better. He can't handle the fact that nobody here worships him like they do in Malaysia. Let him go back there and rot.

I hope someone does come and buy you out, changes your shirt back to blue and gets you going again. I feel for you fans, this is your first taste of the Premier League and it's sour. Nobody wants that.



Good luck

 

I'd be perfectly happy being competitive mid table in the championship. The man has a Messiah complex and the more I see him, the more I think '**** off, there's more to football than this.' I've been pragmatic all along, but this man's the personification of what's wrong with football. It's not about the club, it's about him. I've paid for next season and I'll shout for the team as I've always done, but I'm sick of what's happened to the club. Can anyone honestly say that this season has been as good as the season when went up from league one to the Championship? Give me that season any, er... season.

What is clear is that Cardiff has the potential to be an established Prem club... I hope there's a buyer out there who sees that there's a chance to be a hero without the need for adoration. That, of course, would be a bloody miracle.

 

he's in the wrong business if he wants us all to bow down to him blindly, he'd make a great dictator, there would be a job for him in kim jong un's cabinet for sure.....

look, he should either say he's staying or going. either stay and put up with the stick he deserves, or sell up. dont string us along like this threatening to pull the plug on the club every few months, its dragging the name of the club through the dirt and making us look like a joke. it even made national news on the BBC.

he's basically an abramovic with a fraction of his wealth, and about a fraction of the regard for the people who matter at the club....... the fans........

 

Agreed. Path to hell is paved with good intentions and all that. Maybe he does mean well but I'm afraid I can't help but hold my nose when I put money in his pocket. I'm very close to the edge here, having supported City since moving here in 1986. I'm not one of the die-hards, but them more I see of him, the more I think 'I'd rather be doing something else with my time'. but I can't change the habit of neary thirty years that easily.

 

As someone who has Malaysian friends, you arent that far from the truth in a way, Aber. The Malaysian system is ridden with racism and class issues. It has at its heart of being, the worst of the caste system within just a surname, however, the pyramid of power is completely messed up. At the very bottom you have the "aboriginal" malay community and right at the very top you have the Bumiputera (the chinese malay elite). They really make our class system look fair.

The guy gets his own way end of. He is teflon in Malaysia. He naturally feels invincible with you guys too. However, it seems some realisation may he coming home in his head to roost.



Its not for me to give any advice...its YOUR club. I just wish you well, as I thank f he isnt in charge of us. What I do know is, it will only take a unilateral decision to move forward for you guys, whichever way you choose.


ps. After that press conference, are you going to welcome John Spews back?

 

He has said he's staying, many times!

He also says there is only a certain level of **** anyone will take. If the majority turn vocally I think he'd leave.
He's said that's not his intention but IMO is explaining if he is run out of town by a more significant proportion of our fans he'd go.

I'm with you Glam, I'd take mid table championship and renew each year. It's the Portsmouth scenario that bothers me. In L2 we'd probably play in front of 3-6k fans. That means roughly 3 out of 4 fans would do one if that happens.

 

Sorry to interject as a Jack, but Steve, you have unwittingly noted the achilles heal of the Malaysian psyche. As well as the aforementioned importance of class/caste in their culture, the most important value is that of "Face".

To publically lose face is the ultimate humiliation to a Chinese Malay. It seems at present, VT believes he has the majoritory on side. Who really knows if he is right? But if you really wanted him out, then a unilateral public loss of face is all that is needed. The issue then is, be careful what you wish for.

All wums aside, as a fellow Welsh football fan you, I wish you guys well with your decisions.

 

As an outsider looking in it seems to me that it is more like 5 or 10% of Cardiff fans who are in support of him.While he complains of a lack of respect he shows none for the fans or their history.I'm sorry but I think you are going down.That saddens me because it's taken you fifty years to get there.

 

And this has been the problem with too many owners, happy with selling our best players as long as we stay still. I don't agree with all Tan does but he will bring us progress.

Agree 100% with what he said about Malky and await the outcome.

If you are happy to be a Championship also run so be it, I'm not if you don't aspire to be in the top league, then you don't deserve it.

 

I understand your point about not deserving it, it's all about expectations IMO. I'd rather we were a mid table PL team. Ive loved seeing the best players in the world. Saurez scoring Liverpools 3rd was a bit of football you just had to appreciate for example. Happy was perhaps the wrong word. What I meant was if the 'tan out' at any cost section win and force him out then stable and mid table championship would be a result because off the potential for other outcomes.

I was thinking about all this last night and I reckon the 'circus' and Tan/red are getting a lot of the frustration of how poor we are. Our fan base really didn't have as bigger issue when we were winning the league. On the buses home its a lot easier to talk about what a **** tan is rather than the fact relegation has been almost nailed on since Xmas. It's been a very disappointing season, barring a miracle, I just hope we don't tear the place to bits out of pure frustration.

 

Exactly!! (apart "from the relegation nailed on since Christmas" bit)

This constant getting off on media reports combined with inneffective garbage that comes across every time Tan opens his mouth is born out of nothing other than sheer frustration at our footballing performances and the plight to which they've brought us. I said earlier in the thread, if we were mid table comfort zone right now, the atmosphere on here, on the street, and inside the CCS would be totally different.

Our table position dilemma is not Tan's making - he's become a focus for the frustration and his condescending aura is not helping the situation.

Playing Championship next season would not be a problem for me if it happens. Though I don't think anything drastic would happen next season, the off field implications of staying there (or worse) makes me shudder.

 

Totally agree with this.

 

Anyone who thinks Dave Jones done a better job than Malky has lost the plot.

Did Tan see Eddie Johnson , JET , JLloyd , Bywater.

Wonder what he would have thought when he blew the play off final by leaving McCormack on the bench for Etuhu.

Tan isnt worth listening to.

 

nail on head

 

yes hilts but although he had the tactical nous of a dead snail, malky could keep all our best players and go out and buy players to improve the team....... we lost £30m when we got promoted FFS, and unless tan converts that to shares which he probably wont, then thats £30m more of debt.....

jones found his level with sheffield wednesday, but the worst signing in the past 3-4 years has been velinkonja, a malky signing, for £2m and we're stuck with him for the remainder of his contract. at least dave jones' crap was only on loan and all left.

 

Very difficult to compare the 2 managers because of those vastly different circumstances as Swamp says.

The money MM spent and the squad we have does not look like value with a few notable exceptions. There are better managers than both available I'm just not sure that Ole was one of them.

 

Even the painter & decorator knew Malky was paying far too much, I think Tan got it right when he said he got lucky.

 

What I'm saying, Dai, is more complex that that. But then it seems that you're always rather keen on taking a very black and white view of things. You say 'if you don't aspire to be in the top league, then you don't deserve it.'. As far as I'm concerned, if your lofty 'aspiration' to play in the top league is compromised by whoring yourself by being perfectly happy to be wearing the red, they you don't deserve it.