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The city centre has no site anywhere near big enough, unless the fair was made dramatically smaller.

Having just looked at the size of the Walton Street site, there's very few potential sites that are big enough, I'd say Pickering Park probably looks the best option (though I believe some of the rides need hard standing, so would have to be binned).


Not sure if there is already development but I was wondering about the old Birds Eye site on Hessle High Road and about the old site between Brough BAe and Welton Waters?
 
Not sure if there is already development but I was wondering about the old Birds Eye site on Hessle High Road and about the old site between Brough BAe and Welton Waters?

The Hessle High Road site is still empty as far as I'm aware, but there's a lot of residential there now and access isn't great, the other one's a non-starter, they're never going to entertain moving Hull Fair outside of Hull.
 
It's actually shocking that you, with your boring agenda against anything rugby related, should come up with that all on your own.
Answer the question then ? All this talk about what and what might not happen if any new owners buy the KC Stadium yet no-one has broached the subject of the club we share it with. It might be boring to you but the rugby holds us back and it has done since 1904. Whilst we ground share with them nothing will change.
Surely, again boring or not, the tenancy FC have at the KC is a massive factor.
Perhaps I'm the only one who realises this ?
 
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Answer the question then ? All this talk about what and what might not happen if any new owners buy the KC Stadium yet no-one has broached the subject of the club we share it with. It might be boring to you but the rugby holds us back and it has done since 1904. Whilst we ground share with them nothing will change.
Surely, again boring or not, the tenancy FC have at the KC is a massive factor.
Perhaps I'm the only one who realises this ?

You're not.
 
Answer the question then ? All this talk about what and what might not happen if any new owners buy the KC Stadium yet no-one has broached the subject of the club we share it with. It might be boring to you but the rugby holds us back and it has done since 1904. Whilst we ground share with them nothing will change.
Surely, again boring or not, the tenancy FC have at the KC is a massive factor.
Perhaps I'm the only one who realises this ?
There are many factors that will hold us back, the shared tenancy is one, as is HCC, the lack of opportunity to develop the area and create a decent home for football with a sports village, closer top quality training complex etc.

The way the KC was built, and why is always going to be a factor, and there's no easy answer to that tbh. The whole thing is a mess, and no one is willing to actually do anything. Least of all HCC.

It's easier just to blame the pantomime villain we have as an owner.
 
Allam went to the council with a proposal he thought they jump at, but they didn't, in fact, what he thought was a full council meeting was just a meeting with Terry Geraghty, who apparently didn't wear a tie and ****ed about with an iPad while they were talking and it all went downhill from there.

There have been suggestions that the fair could move to East Park, or to the Humber Bridge car park (as it's not in Hull, I believe that went down particularly badly), but I've no idea if these were seriously considered.

The council have said they would sell the stadium if they got a suitable offer, but it doesn't seem like they've got any intention of selling the whole Walton Street site.
The price Allam offered was £350,000.
 
Partially true.
The stadium will be start to become a liability not an asset as it gets older.

Eventually I feel the council will be facing one big headache because if they don't allow the land to be developed around the stadium to make the whole area attractive to investors they will be left with a stadium and no tenants. I'm sure the majority of the capital expenditure has been written off, but the asset value in the councils books; anybody know?
 
Oh right. So they could stay there and be ok without us now? That's at least some good news.

I don't really pay any attention to rugby so didn't know.

It would be up to the owners of the SMC to maintain the ground and honour their contracts with Hull FC and the Council until the lease runs out.
 
It would be much better around the city centre with some places still open, at least the area would take some of the cash rather than it all getting driven away in vans and getting spent on new caravans/tarmac/stealing equipment.

A few years back I visited Warwick in late October and the fair (which is essentially the same travellers that come to Hull) was in the Town Centre. It wasn't as big as Hull Fair but still a reasonable size. Town centre roads were closed but local shops were open taking advantage of the Fair's presence.

It worked well.

Might work in Hull's City Centre but it is a radical idea.