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Scout73 said:
Not too disappointed about us not signing Michut. He is a tidy player but the lack of physicality was a big concern for me. Its not his size that was the concern but the lack of ground he covers, he lacks speed to make up for his side and he was often caught out in the transition. I think he will have a decent career and i wish him well but 2.5 million is a big outlay for us at the minute.

I know 2.5 million isnt a lot for PL clubs but its still a lot for us - especially when we need to bring in a couple of forwards.

Hopefully bellingham gets signed this week n then get a striker onboard early in the summer
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I think the point about transition is a great one. It is maybe just an experience thing but he would often get caught too high and couldnt recover. I liked him well enough, but you would have to say at this point Neil and Michut are some way ahead and I dont see Michut as part of an attacking 3 or 4.
 
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TopCat_ said:
Suppose you could argue that he hasn't done a great deal in his time here. 1 goal and 1 assist I think? He looks tidy enough on the ball, but does he add enough to the team? If Neil/Ba are going to be our more technical players and Evans/Ekwah the more defensive option, does Michut fit in? Is it worth spending £2.5m on him just in case?

FWIW I'd sign him and see what he can do with a full preseason under his belt
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He’s only played about 1200 minutes of football mainly as a holding midfielder deputising for injuries. I think Ekwah will make that position his own next season but still think Michut had a lot to offer as an 8 or 10, he’s totally different to Neil and what we have in midfield.

Seen it with Diallo at Rangers and when he first came here, you can’t just give them 20 minutes here or there and expect miracles they need a good run of games in the team.
 
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WorkyTicketFTM said:
He’s only played about 1200 minutes of football mainly as a holding midfielder deputising for injuries. I think Ekwah will make that position his own next season but still think Michut had a lot to offer as an 8 or 10, he’s totally different to Neil and what we have in midfield.

Seen it with Diallo at Rangers and when he first came here, you can’t just give them 20 minutes here or there and expect miracles they need a good run of games in the team.
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Definitely. The way he moves with the ball, holds it in spaces and looks to play forward. Really good player.
 
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LAMackem said:
I think they way Ekwah played when he got into the team may have changed the thoughts on Michut. Ekwah who is built like a brick sh*thouse and can play with his feet, has the vision showed what you want in the Championship. Height is a big part of what we need. Obviously highlighted at Luton in the last game. Let’s find another Ekwah to come in.
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I agree, I think Michut is a smashing player but once Ekwah found his feet Michut couldn't get a start. I think we should trust the recruitment team, with the exception of striker cover they seem to have done well the last couple of seasons
 
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I think Michut probably wasn't too convinced about coming:

By the end if the season he had clearly been displaced by Ekwah.

He was also getting interest from Fulham and maybe others playing at a higher level.

I think the club would have had a conversation with him and any hint if doubt from him they won't have bothered to keep him. Probably would have kept him if he was up for it but not too disappointed about not keeping him imo.

I would have liked to see him stay but if it wasn't something he was 100% behind then fair enough.
 
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TopCat_ said:
Agree. Possibly not what we need right now, or possibly not top of our priorities. The powers that be have (finally) realised that physicality is a key component in the EFL

I still would have signed him mind you
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Personally, I hope we don't change how we play too much, make it too much about physicality. Sure, centre back, DM, and a strong centre forward (which we have if we keep them fit). The rest I'd prefer technical gifted players like we have and like we played with for half of the season
 
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dansafcman said:
Personally, I hope we don't change how we play too much, make it too much about physicality. Sure, centre back, DM, and a strong centre forward (which we have if we keep them fit). The rest I'd prefer technical gifted players like we have and like we played with for half of the season
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Nothing to say we can't buy players who are both, but I agree with you. The key part is keeping Batth, Alese, Ballard & Stewart fit, not to mention getting reinforcements up front.

We cannot allow ourselves to be outmuscled by teams like Watford and Luton next year. We have to be able to compete at set pieces
 
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dansafcman said:
Personally, I hope we don't change how we play too much, make it too much about physicality. Sure, centre back, DM, and a strong centre forward (which we have if we keep them fit). The rest I'd prefer technical gifted players like we have and like we played with for half of the season
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Agree, we need physicality for sure - our CBs have to be strong lads, which we have with baath ballard n alese but for me the key is mobility.

We want to press teams so we need CMs that can get about the pitch n win duels. They dont need nessarily need to be over 6ft for example - we could get a 6.4ft cm who can win headers but cant get about the pitch.

Neil n ekwah are perfect for the way we play as both cover a lot of ground but equally they are winning the majority of their duels. Both win over 55% of their duels - thats very good for CMs. Michut was below average in this area, he won around 40% of his duels n this dropped to 17% of aerially duels. Michut was slightly better at retaining possession though, about 3% higher than both neil n ekwah

I agree with everyone saying we need physicality but it cant just be sign big lumps. Its about signing players who are technically good, as you mentioned, but who can get around the pitch at good pace, and that can maintain this throughout
 
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Scout73 said:
Agree, we need physicality for sure - our CBs have to be strong lads, which we have with baath ballard n alese but for me the key is mobility.

We want to press teams so we need CMs that can get about the pitch n win duels. They dont need nessarily need to be over 6ft for example - we could get a 6.4ft cm who can win headers but cant get about the pitch.

Neil n ekwah are perfect for the way we play as both cover a lot of ground but equally they are winning the majority of their duels. Both win over 55% of their duels - thats very good for CMs. Michut was below average in this area, he won around 40% of his duels n this dropped to 17% of aerially duels. Michut was slightly better at retaining possession though, about 3% higher than both neil n ekwah

I agree with everyone saying we need physicality but it cant just be sign big lumps. Its about signing players who are technically good, as you mentioned, but who can get around the pitch at good pace, and that can maintain this throughout
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Said from day dot I’d love a big lad in Evans’ role to replace him. Fabinho, Busquets, Rodri as brilliant as they are they’re also all 6’2-6’3 and offer a real threat from set pieces. I don’t think it’s essential if you have a squad full of tall players but when you have a bunch of shortarses like us i think Ekwah is perfect in there.
 
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WorkyTicketFTM said:
Said from day dot I’d love a big lad in Evans’ role to replace him. Fabinho, Busquets, Rodri as brilliant as they are they’re also all 6’2-6’3 and offer a real threat from set pieces. I don’t think it’s essential if you have a squad full of tall players but when you have a bunch of shortarses like us i think Ekwah is perfect in there.
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Think we would all love a big lad who was quality in possession - hopefully ekwah is that player. I wouldnt want just to sign a big lad because he might be handy at set pieces, but cant get about the pitch or is poor technically. Physicality is def more than just height, one of my favourite players ive ever scouting is john mcginn - so strong n covers so much ground, offers so kuch physicality but isnt a big imposing CM
 
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WorkyTicketFTM said:
Said from day dot I’d love a big lad in Evans’ role to replace him. Fabinho, Busquets, Rodri as brilliant as they are they’re also all 6’2-6’3 and offer a real threat from set pieces. I don’t think it’s essential if you have a squad full of tall players but when you have a bunch of shortarses like us i think Ekwah is perfect in there.
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Rodri is the blueprint for a modern player. Technically outstanding, covers loads of ground, positionally outstanding as well, wins his battles. Probably the most underrated player in the prem.

Of the two I think Neil has the same game style as Rodri. He obviously is still learning. But look at how much he has improved in terms of winning his battles, tackles made and ground covered this year. Ekwah for me has a bit of the Fabregas about him. He picks it up on both sides, seems to ghost between players, plays passes and is superb on the intercept. If we are sticking with a 2 next year I want them 2 playing personally. Unless we can get Rodri and Fabregas like.
 
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