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Decided to look at the fixture list now the window has closed, next 4 or 5 matches will be a big indication of where we are at!

Hopefully Villa and Man Utd are still playing ****e when we play them!
 
Is that the best transfer window in our history? Hard to judge fully, and nothing is guaranteed but the club have given us every chance to stay up...

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Only worry is those names highlighted who could miss a few games in Dec/Jan

Potentially the team in Dec/Jan looks like this

Rooefs
Hume Ballard Alderete Cirkin
Le Fee Xhaka Rigg
Mayenda Brobbey Mundle​

Subs: Patterson, Mukiele, O'Nien, Geertrudia, Alese, Neil, Isidor, Jones, Aleksic

Which doesn't look horrific.

Geertrudia will definitely play somewhere, potentially Hume shifting to LB to accommodate
 
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GK - Roefs
RB - Geertruida
CB x2 - Alderete Mukiele
LB - Reinildo Masuaku
CM X3 - Sadiki, Diarra, Xhaka
RW - Talbi Traore
LW - Adingra
ST - Brobbey

safe to say it went well

Roefs - Dutch international
Geertruida - Dutch international
Alderete - Captained Paraguay, La Liga TOTS
Mukiele - France international. CL experience
Masuaka- 100 plus PL games
Reineldo - over 100 games for Simeone
Diarra - wanted by half of Europe, bosses England for Senegal
Sadiki - Wild card, looks one of the best
Xhaka- doesn’t need words. Our captain? How?
Talbi - brilliant CL campaign, star in making
Traore - cost about same as a Starbucks. 100 plus g/a, PL experience
Adingra - actually about the weakest signing, but Sky is limit and has done bits PL already, potentially superb
Brobbey - set records at Ajax, we will see but could be spectacular if the change of scene is what he needed.

Aye. We will take it.

We a long way from Scowen, Grigg and all
 
A few saying 10/10 window, which is fantastic.

Now though, now it’s closed, if we look back it is way beyond 10/10.

10/10 is everything you hoped for, but let’s step back to the start of this window, to a few day after ‘Tommy scored’

We all; including me, including the level headed lads on here, the optimists, the pessimists, we all got more and more feverish because of the stunning acquisitions and the links and the realisation that the club meant business.

We, as fans do, wanted more and more, believed more and more.

But, back to the days after Wembley. We discussed newly relegated players, Rudoni, we talked about young lads in France, ‘can we now look at young Italians too?’, veterans for some experience, we kidded ourselves players we already had were gonna be good enough.

Looking back now we were just being passionate fans who love our club and trying to convince ourselves we could make it.

We knew we couldn’t. Well l, we thought we couldn’t.

We knew we had Enzo, we said ‘we might break that record again’, we broke it multiple times.

KLD stepped forward and showed us all the stunning vision and belief he had for our club and he and the recruitment teams took us on a wild ride, the media and marketing teams in the background ramped up every area of the club, coaching staff improved, our home, a stadium we have always had absolute pride in was taken to another level with thoughtful and beautiful renovations.

The city glowed up around the club, it was an absolute melting pot of forward motion all summer and for any of us to say it is a 10/10 window is actually borderline disrespectful to the utterly magnificent, thoughtful and planned work the club has done on every level.

We’ve been saying for a whole KLD gave us the club back, we’ve been saying for a slightly shorter while Speakman gave us some pride back, and shorted again Ghisolfi levelling up and putting toppings on that.

Again, Hummel supply us 3 of the most beautiful, professional looking and thoughtful kits in football, we ration all but one of the jewels, we sign multiple international players and several who were flirted with by established top league clubs.

It’s not a 10/10. There isn’t a scale for it, it’s so far beyond what we expected it’s more like 100/10.



We never seen this coming, we can all now look back and just say ‘wow, we really ate back’.

Accrington, Burton, Wembley defeats, 6-0 at Bolton, gone forever.

What Tommy, one of us, gave us on his way out the door wasn’t promotion, it was the final stage of the rebirth of the club and the ownership group have made sure we won’t give that up without a fight.

It is just incredible what we’ve done. And we have 6 points before August is out.

We are Sunderland. We are back. We are gonna remind the world we belong here.

I am wishing my life away for Villa.

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great post mate .
 
Is that the best transfer window in our history? Hard to judge fully, and nothing is guaranteed but the club have given us every chance to stay up...

You must log in or register to see images


Only worry is those names highlighted who could miss a few games in Dec/Jan

Potentially the team in Dec/Jan looks like this

Rooefs
Hume Ballard Alderete Cirkin
Le Fee Xhaka Rigg
Mayenda Brobbey Mundle​

Subs: Patterson, Mukiele, O'Nien, Geertrudia, Alese, Neil, Isidor, Jones, Aleksic

Which doesn't look horrific.
Also worth noting that some of those away in Dec/Jan will be back sooner than others.

For example, I can’t see Mozambique getting far so Reinildo won’t be gone too long.
 
Best transfer window in my time ,massive credit to KLD and the management team. Over to RLB and the coaching staff to ensure it bonds and they create a team ethic /workrate we have just replaced..we have given ourselves a very good chance to break this cycle of promotion/relegation.
Whatever happens I'm backing the club 100%.
 
Why why why when I’m having me breakfast!!!

It’s safe to look back now marra. When we think about Grigg, had he worked out, KLD might not have got the club.

We can now look at that signing as a catalyst for better things.

We’ve gone from overpaying for a lad cos he had a catchy chant, to the owner flying in on his private jet to convince Switzerlands captain to leave the CL for Wearside.
 
Window has way surpassed any expectations I had .

I honestly thought 4 to 5 good new players , to strengthen our squad and give us a chance of staying up, and use our players hoping they learn quickly and make the step up gaining experience. Was thinking, if we go down, we build again on parachute payment and then really give it a go.

What KLD and team has done is unbelievable. Sure, the majority of players we've bought in have no premier League experience, but the calibre and potential is incredible. And Xhaka. How have we got him ?

We're a newly promoted team. We shouldn't be able to attract a player like him. He could have played for a team competing in Europe

Without exaggerating, if our players gel properly including those through the door yesterday, we could be mid table/or into the top half of the table . Imo of course
 
BRIAN BROBBEY: AJAX FAN VIEW

With Sunderland sealing the late deal for Brian Brobbey, we spoke to Kabir from We Talk Ajax about our new centre forward...

Firstly, are you surprised to see Brian Brobbey leave Ajax?
No, I am not. The time was ripe for a move for both Ajax and Brobbey. It was quite evident that he has been unhappy and after his mediocre season last year, it was the correct decision for both parties to shake hands and move on.

Will he be missed by your fans?
As a homegrown player, we naturally want to see him succeed and leave the club through the 'front door', however I don't think he will be missed. He was a promising player in the youth, and he showed promise when he broke into the first team, but he lacks the typical traits that we look for in an Ajax striker, namely footedness and technical prowess. The club is also in a situation where funds are the need of the hour, therefore most if not all fans will likely be happy with his exit, considering the above.

The rumoured fee is €20m, rising to €25m. What are your thoughts on this price?
As mentioned above, the club is quite keen to maximise as much income as possible, therefore we are really chuffed with the fact that we are getting that much, despite his poor season last year and the fact that it is deadline day.

What are his biggest strengths?
Pardon the pun, but his biggest strength is his strength. He is a physical player who likes to use his body and impose himself on defenders. He has a great ability to hold the ball up with his back against the defenders. This allows his teammates to enter the box and be dangerous.

Weaknesses?
If you think of a typical Ajax player - you think flawless technique and the ability to link up play. Unfortunately this is not he case with Brobbey. He's quite limited in that regard. He often snatches at chances and lacks any real composure. He also, despite his presence, is quite poor at heading the ball.

Do you think he’s good enough to lead the line for a Premier League team?
At this moment in time, I would say he is not quite ready to do so. But it also depends on the type of football the club plays. You never know, maybe the faster pace and physicality of the EPL might suit him and he comes into his own. But at this moment in time, despite glimpses of ability and talent shown, I would say he is far from the finished article.

We were hoping for some depth on the wings. Would he be versatile enough to play wide if required?
I don't think so - he has always played as a number nine and it would be difficult to see him operate on the wing, as a result.

He’s still only 23, what is his ceiling?
It's a strange one. When he was coming through the youth teams, we all felt he was the next Patrick Kluivert. But it feels like his development has stalled, which is why us Ajax fans were quite surprised that an EPL club has come in for him. He left us a few years ago for Leipzig in the Bundesliga, but came back after six months as he felt out of his depth and homesick. That being said, he definitely has ability. The year before last, he showed that with his G/A record. He needs to be in a team where he is shown love and given the confidence that he is the No1 striker - if so, I think he can provide better returns than he has done recently for Ajax. Whether he can lead the line and score regularly, that remains to be seen. But you are getting someone with the ingredients of a successful player.

How many goals do you reckon he’ll get this season?
I think anywhere between 5-10 goals, and that would be a great return for someone like Brobbey in his first year in the EPL.

What’s his fitness record like?
Historically quite poor, but that has changed now. He did have many issues in his teens but he has invested quite a bit of time outside of the club to get fitter. He uses his body a lot and therefore does get tackled quite often by defenders but he's a strong lad and I think he will be able to hold his own in the EPL.

And his attitude?
At this moment in time, there are quite a few stories flying about about how he's not happy at the club and making it known. He's not someone that won't turn up for training or not give his 100% in a match, but he needs to be shown love and be made to felt important in order to shine.

Apparently he had some off-the-pitch problems last season. Can you tell us anything about what happened there?
He was unfortunately caught in a situation where a well-known gangster from Amsterdam tried to extort €150,000 under false pretenses and escalated threats with arson, explosions, and a shooting of Brobbey’s friend. Brobbey did not pay and kept the matter largely private, while the perpetrator was sentenced to 10 years in prison.

Finally, is he good enough to make the difference in a potential relegation fight?
It is hard to say. At this moment in time, the answer would be no. But as mentioned, in a new environment, he could be inspired and raise his level. He has good footballing traits, and if all of these come together, he would well turn out to be a great signing for the club. Only time will tell!
 
I wonder how Regis feels in all of this.

Bloke does a fantastic job at Lorient, puts them top half. Gets his team sold from beneath him and carries the can when they go down.

Sits out of work. Gets this job at this high profile but damaged and suffering club, nobody is overly excited.

Gets grief despite having us in the top 4 all season competing with clubs with 8-10 times the budget, asked to knit a tapestry out of some loose threads.

Buys on, falls in love, goes from emotionless on the touch line to kicking every ball. Ballard. Tommy.

What next? Jobe goes.

Wallop. Here you go Regis.

He must pinch himself how it’s all gone. He’s been a wonderful part of it.

Since we have been PL I swear that man is glowing.
 
A few saying 10/10 window, which is fantastic.

Now though, now it’s closed, if we look back it is way beyond 10/10.

10/10 is everything you hoped for, but let’s step back to the start of this window, to a few day after ‘Tommy scored’

We all; including me, including the level headed lads on here, the optimists, the pessimists, we all got more and more feverish because of the stunning acquisitions and the links and the realisation that the club meant business.

We, as fans do, wanted more and more, believed more and more.

But, back to the days after Wembley. We discussed newly relegated players, Rudoni, we talked about young lads in France, ‘can we now look at young Italians too?’, veterans for some experience, we kidded ourselves players we already had were gonna be good enough.

Looking back now we were just being passionate fans who love our club and trying to convince ourselves we could make it.

We knew we couldn’t. Well, we thought we couldn’t.

We knew we had Enzo, we said ‘we might break that record again’, we broke it multiple times.

KLD stepped forward and showed us all the stunning vision and belief he had for our club and he and the recruitment teams took us on a wild ride, the media and marketing teams in the background ramped up every area of the club, coaching staff improved, our home, a stadium we have always had absolute pride in was taken to another level with thoughtful and beautiful renovations.

The city glowed up around the club, it was an absolute melting pot of forward motion all summer and for any of us to say it is a 10/10 window is actually borderline disrespectful to the utterly magnificent, thoughtful and planned work the club has done on every level.

We’ve been saying for a while KLD gave us the club back, we’ve been saying for a slightly shorter while Speakman gave us some pride back, and shorter again Ghisolfi levelling up and putting toppings on that.

Again, Hummel supply us 3 of the most beautiful, professional looking and thoughtful kits in football, we retain all but one of the jewels, we sign multiple international players and several who were flirted with by established top league clubs.

It’s not a 10/10. There isn’t a scale for it, it’s so far beyond what we expected it’s more like 100/10.

We never seen this coming, we can all now look back and just say ‘wow, we really are back’.

Accrington, Burton, Wembley defeats, 6-0 at Bolton, gone forever.

What Tommy, one of us, gave us on his way out the door wasn’t promotion, it was the final stage of the rebirth of the club and the ownership group have made sure we won’t give that up without a fight.

It is just incredible what we’ve done. And we have 6 points before August is out.

We are Sunderland. We are back. We are gonna remind the world we belong here.

I am wishing my life away for Villa.
Couldn’t have worded it better.

Never thought I’d see a window better than Keane’s first, but this one beats it in my opinion, in terms of the quality brought in. We’ve given ourselves a fighting chance this season and now have something great to build on.

Well done to everyone at the club for pulling this off
 
BRIAN BROBBEY: AJAX FAN VIEW

With Sunderland sealing the late deal for Brian Brobbey, we spoke to Kabir from We Talk Ajax about our new centre forward...

Firstly, are you surprised to see Brian Brobbey leave Ajax?
No, I am not. The time was ripe for a move for both Ajax and Brobbey. It was quite evident that he has been unhappy and after his mediocre season last year, it was the correct decision for both parties to shake hands and move on.

Will he be missed by your fans?
As a homegrown player, we naturally want to see him succeed and leave the club through the 'front door', however I don't think he will be missed. He was a promising player in the youth, and he showed promise when he broke into the first team, but he lacks the typical traits that we look for in an Ajax striker, namely footedness and technical prowess. The club is also in a situation where funds are the need of the hour, therefore most if not all fans will likely be happy with his exit, considering the above.

The rumoured fee is €20m, rising to €25m. What are your thoughts on this price?
As mentioned above, the club is quite keen to maximise as much income as possible, therefore we are really chuffed with the fact that we are getting that much, despite his poor season last year and the fact that it is deadline day.

What are his biggest strengths?
Pardon the pun, but his biggest strength is his strength. He is a physical player who likes to use his body and impose himself on defenders. He has a great ability to hold the ball up with his back against the defenders. This allows his teammates to enter the box and be dangerous.

Weaknesses?
If you think of a typical Ajax player - you think flawless technique and the ability to link up play. Unfortunately this is not he case with Brobbey. He's quite limited in that regard. He often snatches at chances and lacks any real composure. He also, despite his presence, is quite poor at heading the ball.

Do you think he’s good enough to lead the line for a Premier League team?
At this moment in time, I would say he is not quite ready to do so. But it also depends on the type of football the club plays. You never know, maybe the faster pace and physicality of the EPL might suit him and he comes into his own. But at this moment in time, despite glimpses of ability and talent shown, I would say he is far from the finished article.

We were hoping for some depth on the wings. Would he be versatile enough to play wide if required?
I don't think so - he has always played as a number nine and it would be difficult to see him operate on the wing, as a result.

He’s still only 23, what is his ceiling?
It's a strange one. When he was coming through the youth teams, we all felt he was the next Patrick Kluivert. But it feels like his development has stalled, which is why us Ajax fans were quite surprised that an EPL club has come in for him. He left us a few years ago for Leipzig in the Bundesliga, but came back after six months as he felt out of his depth and homesick. That being said, he definitely has ability. The year before last, he showed that with his G/A record. He needs to be in a team where he is shown love and given the confidence that he is the No1 striker - if so, I think he can provide better returns than he has done recently for Ajax. Whether he can lead the line and score regularly, that remains to be seen. But you are getting someone with the ingredients of a successful player.

How many goals do you reckon he’ll get this season?
I think anywhere between 5-10 goals, and that would be a great return for someone like Brobbey in his first year in the EPL.

What’s his fitness record like?
Historically quite poor, but that has changed now. He did have many issues in his teens but he has invested quite a bit of time outside of the club to get fitter. He uses his body a lot and therefore does get tackled quite often by defenders but he's a strong lad and I think he will be able to hold his own in the EPL.

And his attitude?
At this moment in time, there are quite a few stories flying about about how he's not happy at the club and making it known. He's not someone that won't turn up for training or not give his 100% in a match, but he needs to be shown love and be made to felt important in order to shine.

Apparently he had some off-the-pitch problems last season. Can you tell us anything about what happened there?
He was unfortunately caught in a situation where a well-known gangster from Amsterdam tried to extort €150,000 under false pretenses and escalated threats with arson, explosions, and a shooting of Brobbey’s friend. Brobbey did not pay and kept the matter largely private, while the perpetrator was sentenced to 10 years in prison.

Finally, is he good enough to make the difference in a potential relegation fight?
It is hard to say. At this moment in time, the answer would be no. But as mentioned, in a new environment, he could be inspired and raise his level. He has good footballing traits, and if all of these come together, he would well turn out to be a great signing for the club. Only time will tell!

Fascinating read.

So a player who didn’t quite hit the heights, where have we seen that before?

The penultimate paragraph is key, how could that not affect a human being? The Dutch underworld is serious. Be hard to function at all under that.

I think there’s nothing shocking in that to us that have seen him play, he’s not a van Persie or a RVN type.

Having a bit of a battering ram and and real big muckle scrapper isn’t what we’ve seen for a while but it will give us approach options.

We will just wait and see. He’s played games, scored goals and is a Dutch international so while it’s a gamble, we weren’t buying any striker who isn’t.

I can’t wait to see him, and we draw our own conclusions based on that.
 
BRIAN BROBBEY: AJAX FAN VIEW

With Sunderland sealing the late deal for Brian Brobbey, we spoke to Kabir from We Talk Ajax about our new centre forward...

Firstly, are you surprised to see Brian Brobbey leave Ajax?
No, I am not. The time was ripe for a move for both Ajax and Brobbey. It was quite evident that he has been unhappy and after his mediocre season last year, it was the correct decision for both parties to shake hands and move on.

Will he be missed by your fans?
As a homegrown player, we naturally want to see him succeed and leave the club through the 'front door', however I don't think he will be missed. He was a promising player in the youth, and he showed promise when he broke into the first team, but he lacks the typical traits that we look for in an Ajax striker, namely footedness and technical prowess. The club is also in a situation where funds are the need of the hour, therefore most if not all fans will likely be happy with his exit, considering the above.

The rumoured fee is €20m, rising to €25m. What are your thoughts on this price?
As mentioned above, the club is quite keen to maximise as much income as possible, therefore we are really chuffed with the fact that we are getting that much, despite his poor season last year and the fact that it is deadline day.

What are his biggest strengths?
Pardon the pun, but his biggest strength is his strength. He is a physical player who likes to use his body and impose himself on defenders. He has a great ability to hold the ball up with his back against the defenders. This allows his teammates to enter the box and be dangerous.

Weaknesses?
If you think of a typical Ajax player - you think flawless technique and the ability to link up play. Unfortunately this is not he case with Brobbey. He's quite limited in that regard. He often snatches at chances and lacks any real composure. He also, despite his presence, is quite poor at heading the ball.

Do you think he’s good enough to lead the line for a Premier League team?
At this moment in time, I would say he is not quite ready to do so. But it also depends on the type of football the club plays. You never know, maybe the faster pace and physicality of the EPL might suit him and he comes into his own. But at this moment in time, despite glimpses of ability and talent shown, I would say he is far from the finished article.

We were hoping for some depth on the wings. Would he be versatile enough to play wide if required?
I don't think so - he has always played as a number nine and it would be difficult to see him operate on the wing, as a result.

He’s still only 23, what is his ceiling?
It's a strange one. When he was coming through the youth teams, we all felt he was the next Patrick Kluivert. But it feels like his development has stalled, which is why us Ajax fans were quite surprised that an EPL club has come in for him. He left us a few years ago for Leipzig in the Bundesliga, but came back after six months as he felt out of his depth and homesick. That being said, he definitely has ability. The year before last, he showed that with his G/A record. He needs to be in a team where he is shown love and given the confidence that he is the No1 striker - if so, I think he can provide better returns than he has done recently for Ajax. Whether he can lead the line and score regularly, that remains to be seen. But you are getting someone with the ingredients of a successful player.

How many goals do you reckon he’ll get this season?
I think anywhere between 5-10 goals, and that would be a great return for someone like Brobbey in his first year in the EPL.

What’s his fitness record like?
Historically quite poor, but that has changed now. He did have many issues in his teens but he has invested quite a bit of time outside of the club to get fitter. He uses his body a lot and therefore does get tackled quite often by defenders but he's a strong lad and I think he will be able to hold his own in the EPL.

And his attitude?
At this moment in time, there are quite a few stories flying about about how he's not happy at the club and making it known. He's not someone that won't turn up for training or not give his 100% in a match, but he needs to be shown love and be made to felt important in order to shine.

Apparently he had some off-the-pitch problems last season. Can you tell us anything about what happened there?
He was unfortunately caught in a situation where a well-known gangster from Amsterdam tried to extort €150,000 under false pretenses and escalated threats with arson, explosions, and a shooting of Brobbey’s friend. Brobbey did not pay and kept the matter largely private, while the perpetrator was sentenced to 10 years in prison.

Finally, is he good enough to make the difference in a potential relegation fight?
It is hard to say. At this moment in time, the answer would be no. But as mentioned, in a new environment, he could be inspired and raise his level. He has good footballing traits, and if all of these come together, he would well turn out to be a great signing for the club. Only time will tell!
Got to have sympathy with Brobbey about that extortion, could have been the reason why his mindset wasn’t right.

Like he says, he might suit the fast physical side of the prem. One thing I’ve noticed from our games and watching others so far is just how physical this league is. Someone with Brobbey’s raw physical attributes will be an asset I am sure.

Trust the club. We are here to make a statement in this league. <cool>
 
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