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There’d be a reset.
Then the TV money would go to the one watched more, which in this country would be the league.

‘Sky money’ is advertising revenue. That follows the viewers.

After initial interest nobody would want to watch the same games on repeat. The viewers would watch the league.

Saudi or whatever may financially back it, but once it stops being a cash cow they’d pull out.

There is nothing better than local rivalries and day to day banter and excitement.

A super league would be like the NFL, you can watch, you might even enjoy for a while, but when alls said and done you don’t really give a ****.

The rights are sold around the world. They're not paying to watch Southampton v Portsmouth. They can watch City v United or Spurs v Arsenal in the Premier League.

I think you're seeing this very much from you traditional view and not from the perspective of those under 30 all around the world who are the real audience that they'll be selling to.
 
Liverpool, Man United and Arsenal are this countries most successful clubs. They are central to the history of football in this country. The league is diminished without them.

The clubs might exist but the quality will drop massively. Income would fall through the floor. Clubs won't be able to afford wages and transfer fees. They also won't be able to afford state of the art stadia and academies.

That might not bother you, but it will bother most, especially younger fans.
The usual fear that the big 6 leave and all the other clubs die.

This the same premier league that was boring as sin last year? The same Premier league where clubs depend on billionaire owners to survive let alone compete?

I seem to recall us, Leeds etc having sold out grounds most weeks, younger fans want to see games live, that gets them hooked.

Football would survive without them
 
The usual fear that the big 6 leave and all the other clubs die.

This the same premier league that was boring as sin last year? The same Premier league where clubs depend on billionaire owners to survive let alone compete?

I seem to recall us, Leeds etc having sold out grounds most weeks, younger fans want to see games live, that gets them hooked.

Football would survive without them

It's the same Premier League which has more viewers around the world than any other league in history.

Us and Leeds didn't sell out in League One - because the standard was ****e.

I'm not saying football wouldn't "survive" without them, I'm just saying it would be so much ****ing worse than it is today.
 
There’d be a reset.
Then the TV money would go to the one watched more, which in this country would be the league.

‘Sky money’ is advertising revenue. That follows the viewers.

After initial interest nobody would want to watch the same games on repeat. The viewers would watch the league.

Saudi or whatever may financially back it, but once it stops being a cash cow they’d pull out.

There is nothing better than local rivalries and day to day banter and excitement.

A super league would be like the NFL, you can watch, you might even enjoy for a while, but when alls said and done you don’t really give a ****.
The Premier League rights are sold worldwide not just here. Half of clubs in it have sponsors whose goods/services are not even available in this country, same with perimeter advertising. There are millions of people watching it on TV who have literally never set foot in the UK. Sky are more interested in these people not the "legacy" match going fans in England. Sad but true.
 
Honestly if they didn't want to sell Xhaka they'd just brief that. Every player is available to an extraordinary offer you'd only explicitly say it to signal you're expecting further bids at least in my mind. Sounds like negotiation to me
 
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It's the same Premier League which has more viewers around the world than any other league in history.

Us and Leeds didn't sell out in League One - because the standard was ****e.

I'm not saying football wouldn't "survive" without them, I'm just saying it would be so much ****ing worse than it is today.
Us and Leeds in league one had no influence from the big 6.

Look at what we are spending now to try and get 17th place in the premier league, yet you can name the top 6 or 7 places in the league already.

Thats not the most attractive thing is it?
 
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Honestly if they didn't want to sell Xhaka they'd just brief that. Every player is available to an extraordinary offer you'd only explicitly say it to signal you're expecting further bids at least in my mind. Sounds like negotiation to me

100% it’s negotiation. As you say, it’s easy to say “not for sale”. They’ve invited something extraordinary to happen. They’re essentially wanting a bidding war.

Best tactic now is to walk away and go back to them if and when more interest is shown, or if it isn’t, later in the window
 
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The Premier League rights are sold worldwide not just here. Half of clubs in it have sponsors whose goods/services are not even available in this country, same with perimeter advertising. There are millions of people watching it on TV who have literally never set foot in the UK. Sky are more interested in these people not the "legacy" match going fans in England. Sad but true.

Yep. I'm not saying I love football how it is, just that it's where we are and to undo it causes so much more pain.

It's the same as capitalism to be fair. It's gone way too far, it's horrific but just ****ing it off would cause a **** load of bigger problems.
 
Us and Leeds in league one had no influence from the big 6.

Look at what we are spending now to try and get 17th place in the premier league, yet you can name the top 6 or 7 places in the league already.

Thats not the most attractive thing is it?

It is to the rest of the world. It's the most watched league in history. This is the product that they want.
 
Yep. I'm not saying I love football how it is, just that it's where we are and to undo it causes so much more pain.

It's the same as capitalism to be fair. It's gone way too far, it's horrific but just ****ing it off would cause a **** load of bigger problems.
The Premier League is a paragon of capitalism. The rich survive and the poor go to the wall. If the sugar daddy of TV money decides to pull out then tough. Much as Ellis Short did. It is a house of cards. Greed is what's wrong with capitalism and it also what's wrong with the football pyramid in England post "Premier League"
 
Whilst I agree with the sentiment of the "big 6" ****ing off to a super league, the "premier league" and all of the rest of pyramid would collapse as Sky TV money is inflating wages and transfer fees and SKY would drop the remaining leagues like a stone for the all new super league. Indeed the Premier League started only because the "big 6" wanted a bigger slice of broadcasting rights in the first place. If FIFA/UEFA wanted to stop it all they could but they are as greedy as the greedy clubs that want a super league themselves. Football will eat itself in the end.
Then footballers would have to take a more sensible wage wouldn’t they? Instead of demanding 300 grand a week?
 
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Liverpool, Man United and Arsenal are this countries most successful clubs. They are central to the history of football in this country. The league is diminished without them.

The clubs might exist but the quality will drop massively. Income would fall through the floor. Clubs won't be able to afford wages and transfer fees. They also won't be able to afford state of the art stadia and academies.

That might not bother you, but it will bother most, especially younger fans.
It certainly won’t bother me, sooner they’ve gone the better. Let’s see who comes crawling back after a few years.
Do you think their fans want it, I don’t.
 
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