I’m not sure which the other is
but Lammens has +15.5 xGoT last season
this is the one I want
I’m not sure which the other is
but Lammens has +15.5 xGoT last season
That’s not much underlying data to goalkeeping though. You can obviously attribute facing more shots to eventually having a higher xG against but it doesn’t change the xGoT performance that is the standard of every individual shot facedThere’s surely levels of data and even then it comes down to interpretation? With all due respect to the (good) posters on here talking about it, most of the data they have access to or are quoting is pretty base level stuff. Some more than others.
There’s a whole myriad of information out there - I’d suggest the secret to being a good, smart, effective data led club doesn’t see you going out to just compete for the keeper with the best goal/xGOT prevention stats but instead sees you identifying something in more detailed underlying data that others perhaps don’t and that you believe you can utilise or work on to your benefit. Won’t necessarily be obvious to outside observers.
There’s surely levels of data and even then it comes down to interpretation? With all due respect to the (good) posters on here talking about it, most of the data they have access to or are quoting is pretty base level stuff. Some more than others.
There’s a whole myriad of information out there - I’d suggest the secret to being a good, smart, effective data led club doesn’t see you going out to just compete for the keeper with the best goal/xGOT prevention stats but instead sees you identifying something in more detailed underlying data that others perhaps don’t and that you believe you can utilise or work on to your benefit. Won’t necessarily be obvious to outside observers.
Same, he has the highest upside of all the GKs we've been linked with - and I don't think it's closethis is the one I want
either today or tomorrow
I'd love to see data on goalkeepers touches with feet under pressure (opposition player within 10 yards) and then pass completion under those conditions, things like that, If I'm thinking about it I'm sure there's someone out there trying to collate that data.
Same, he has the highest upside of all the GKs we've been linked with - and I don't think it's close
I do think Petrovic and Bulka are both a level above him at the minute but he is younger
He's a PL calibre GK already and I hope we'd be all over that
We've been scouting the belgium league for a while so hoping we've been scouting him
I think he has a bit of Tommy Sorensen about him
Or it’s going on in the backgroundI'm be surprised if we haven't enquired about him considering his profile, once you start looking for keepers that fit what we're looking for his name pops up quickly. I assume he's not available or the club have seen something that suggest he's not quite ready.
Yeah i think we would have enquired, @JimHeron92 thought Antwerp might be wanting too much for him and that would end the deal quicklyI'm be surprised if we haven't enquired about him considering his profile, once you start looking for keepers that fit what we're looking for his name pops up quickly. I assume he's not available or the club have seen something that suggest he's not quite ready.
I'm be surprised if we haven't enquired about him considering his profile, once you start looking for keepers that fit what we're looking for his name pops up quickly. I assume he's not available or the club have seen something that suggest he's not quite ready.
So if the club are going for Ramsdale do you believe they're ignoring the xGOT prevented or haven't the knowledge/awareness of it?That’s not much underlying data to goalkeeping though. You can obviously attribute facing more shots to eventually having a higher xG against but it doesn’t change the xGoT performance that is the standard of every individual shot faced
You and me both mateFear not mate....there must be half a dozen on this thread working on it as we speak! I didn't realise all these stats existed!
Ignoring and feel they see a different reason to sign him, which is fine and I’ll back the club at the right priceSo if the club are going for Ramsdale do you believe they're ignoring the xGOT prevented or haven't the knowledge/awareness of it?
No I think they are very well aware of it. The report that came out last week about us looking for a 'placeholder' GK after missing out on longer term options (Bulka, Petrovic), kind of makes sense with Ramsdale, if the fee is low. He'll save what he's meant to save and concede what he's meant to concede.So if the club are going for Ramsdale do you believe they're ignoring the xGOT prevented or haven't the knowledge/awareness of it?
Sorry, I should have responded to this at the same time but of course there is. I can guarantee the club will be considering a load more data on keepers than what is being quoted here.That’s not much underlying data to goalkeeping though. You can obviously attribute facing more shots to eventually having a higher xG against but it doesn’t change the xGoT performance that is the standard of every individual shot faced
Martinez.Tbh, I’d hope not, he’s there to an improve a keeper he’s not a scout nor has he necessarily worked with the level of keeper the club want to move forward
Would you not look to use the loan market for a place holder rather than committing a chunk of your budget and PSR manoeuvrability?No I think they are very well aware of it. The report that came out last week about us looking for a 'placeholder' GK after missing out on longer term options (Bulka, Petrovic), kind of makes sense with Ramsdale, if the fee is low. He'll save what he's meant to save and concede what he's meant to concede.
Tbf looking at the alternatives on the market id almost just say **** it and pay if it's €25m they want.Yeah i think we would have enquired, @JimHeron92 thought Antwerp might be wanting too much for him and that would end the deal quickly
As you said he's one that stands out. I didn't think he was great at playing out from the back, he's not a liability just not what the top top sides would probably want so that might put teams off him