Absolutely. Many posters said this is a PL level signing. I’m delighted he’s here permanentlyI’d argue it would be an insane signing even now if we didn’t have the personal connection
Absolutely. Many posters said this is a PL level signing. I’m delighted he’s here permanentlyI’d argue it would be an insane signing even now if we didn’t have the personal connection
I don’t know if was him or Dan Neil, my memories a bit vague but I remember thinking at the time that when the snake said it I felt he it was just because he didn’t trust young players. Loads of people jumped on it though. I do remember Doyle having a poor game once with a couple of howlers and I think his confidence was knocked. My original question was genuine though - do Man City think it was a good loan or do they think we overplayed and damaged him? I have no idea whether we have any credit with them or not.It was a very positive loan for the lad at such a young age. ‘The snake’ was bang on tbf, Johnson had overused him.
I believe Man City would’ve seen it as a very good loan move. He gained plenty of experience here whilst playing for a club with big crowds and high expectations. Faced some physical forwards and won at Wembley as a 17/18 y/o! It stood him in good steadI don’t know if was him or Dan Neil, my memories a bit vague but I remember thinking at the time that when the snake said it I felt he it was just because he didn’t trust young players. Loads of people jumped on it though. I do remember Doyle having a poor game once with a couple of howlers and I think his confidence was knocked. My original question was genuine though - do Man City think it was a good loan or do they think we overplayed and damaged him? I have no idea whether we have any credit with them or not.
I know what his best one was though - Saudis away in the FA Cup!Welbeck scored 11 goals all competitions last season with 10 in the Premiership, his highest ever return in the league. He always struck me as a switched on bloke when interviewed and has probably looked after himself, I wouldn't at all be shocked to see him get 10 again next season with the right team.

Looked better at right back than centre half for me which seems strange as he is physically more suited to centre half. He looked like a mistake waiting to happen in a central role. But, in fairness to him, he didn't get a run in team and its hard to build relationships with your partner when that happensI think he was intended to be the Ballard replacement but has had terrible luck. There was significant interest in him when we signed him and from the little I’ve seen I think he has enough to at least be a top end championship centre half.
What a pass to himWirtz just scored a cracking header for Germany. Can’t wait to see him in the PL![]()
Interestingly Le Fee and Amir Richardson have the same agentRégis Lebris talks about Enzo Le Fée's arrival at Sunderland: "I tried my luck during the winter, I told myself that I had a 1% chance of signing him. And then, speaking with his agent, we said to ourselves that it could be a good idea."
He’d be perfect to bring both quality and experience. A very long shot though.Welbeck scored 11 goals all competitions last season with 10 in the Premiership, his highest ever return in the league. He always struck me as a switched on bloke when interviewed and has probably looked after himself, I wouldn't at all be shocked to see him get 10 again next season with the right team.
I canWirtz just scored a cracking header for Germany. Can’t wait to see him in the PL![]()
Mate I’m not sure what you’re expecting the club to do. We need maybe 5 max 6 first team absolute quality
they aren’t going to sack of the lads that got us here
patto, Hume, Ballard, cirkin, Mayenda, Isidor, mundle, neil, Rigg at least will all play big parts
you can’t go up and smash your whole 11 out the window and start again. 5/6 absolute quality with a couple other depth signings based on outgoings
Interesting that your starters have no premier league experience and your competition have bags of premier league games under their belts.This.
Something like these as competition:
Henderson
Welbeck
Mepham
Doyle
Then as starters
Singo
Bardghji
Richardson
Merlin
Magassa
With a couple of random loans thrown in:
Bobb/McAtee/Etcheverri
Guiu
Interesting that your starters have no premier league experience and your competition have bags of premier league games under their belts.
Love long range shooting.He’d be perfect to bring both quality and experience. A very long shot though.
Right that’s enough said let’s just chillIts a shame you slag them off on here
Welbeck would be a good signing I think. Mayenda is one I have earmarked to be fine with the step up but obviously he'll have an adjustment period and Welbeck would arguably be perfect for the meantime.
Feel like Moyes would love him at Everton though, maybe Potter at West Ham as well.