Absolutely horrible stuff to watch but Luton almost stayed up with a much much worse side than we do.I think it’s all gonna come down to how we and the other promoted sides play l. All 6 of the promoted sides were or had reached their ceiling and signed poorly or to prepare for a yoyo drop al la Ipswich.
Also I don’t think any of the sides had a playing style and identity that could survive the prem with the squads they had. See Kompany trying to play like he was at home to Cardiff when he was away at Brighton or Villa.
You can’t come up and play with the big boys and pretend you’ve got a 300 million pound squad. you’re gonna have to win ugly and stabilise.
same,
out of the 3 clubs that went up, think us and Leeds may surprise a few
think, and cant beleive im saying this, think Man u will be down around us, west ham Wolves, Burnley.
dont think it will be obvious who goes down,
Mate,it'll come down,as it always does,to the quality of the squad. Atm,we have no idea what our squad will look like come August. Once we have that,how we play will be determined on a match by match basis. Can't see any Kompany/Martin approach from RLB.I think it’s all gonna come down to how we and the other promoted sides play l. All 6 of the promoted sides were or had reached their ceiling and signed poorly or to prepare for a yoyo drop al la Ipswich.
Also I don’t think any of the sides had a playing style and identity that could survive the prem with the squads they had. See Kompany trying to play like he was at home to Cardiff when he was away at Brighton or Villa.
You can’t come up and play with the big boys and pretend you’ve got a 300 million pound squad. you’re gonna have to win ugly and stabilise.
Honestly a bit more quality at cb and out on the wings and they could’ve stayed up, seems the relegation really shattered the teams morale and the strikers fell of a cliff. Worry what a season of pastings could do to our young lads.Absolutely horrible stuff to watch but Luton almost stayed up with a much much worse side than we do.
The only problem lies in which teams get less than 40 points from the current premier league, there's a few who could "struggle" but does that mean 44 points now?
Leicester City the most likely if they get that points deduction.Next season, I can see one of the teams that came down, to do a double drop,
I think that will become more of thing,
Leicester City the most likely if they get that points deduction.
Absolutely horrible stuff to watch but Luton almost stayed up with a much much worse side than we do.
The only problem lies in which teams get less than 40 points from the current premier league, there's a few who could "struggle" but does that mean 44 points now?
Everton have 14 first team players for next season, Moyesy got a rebuild on his hands... Let's see what he does.Honestly a bit more quality at cb and out on the wings and they could’ve stayed up, seems the relegation really shattered the teams morale and the strikers fell of a cliff. Worry what a season of pastings could do to our young lads.
I mean of the teams in the league now probably Everton, Wolves and Fulham have the “weakest” squads but they’ll not be doing nothing this summer. The likes of palace, villa and Forrest may struggle with the extra burden of Europe but I doubt it. Leaves West Ham, Spurs and Man utd who I don’t see having nearly as a bad of a season.
when you look at the squads the players the depth I start to worry but honestly **** it let’s just have em all, don’t need to spend 45 million on a cm if you can train one up to become just that.
Honestly mate I'm praying on a points deduction for someone, feels like it gave a few teams a lifeline as of late.Mentioned this in another thread. As the established Prem teams get richer and richer, I can see the fabled "40 point mark" to avoid relegation getting higher and higher. Wouldn't surprise me at all if we need 45 to survive this year...
This will be the telling season. All 3 promoted clubs for different reasons have a chance to survive. If all 3 go down with a whimper for the 3rd successive year and 2 or 3 parachute payment clubs come back up then I do think there will start to be more coverage and discussions on how that can’t continue. How they fix it, I have no idea.I'm still not totally sure about the promoted teams are ****ed narrative, this season will be telling for if it really is the case.
Only 2 seasons ago all 3 stayed up but the last 2 have been the worst performances by each collective 3 ever. If one or two teams survive it will show just how poorly the last 6 recruited and if none do it will show that 3 consecutive years of the same 17 teams has caused an impenetrable midtable that reaches down to 17th place.
Promoted teams being hindered by FFP including any losses in the championship where you get 100m less every season is sort of ruining it but there are implications for changing that too - you can't discount losses in the championship so maybe you have to treat it like a hypothetical premier league season?This will be the telling season. All 3 promoted clubs for different reasons have a chance to survive. If all 3 go down with a whimper for the 3rd successive year and 2 or 3 parachute payment clubs come back up then I do think there will start to be more coverage and discussions on how that can’t continue. How they fix it, I have no idea.
I think you are missing the credit needed for Hjelde, he took 2 defenders away from the near post, created the space for BallardMight have missed it but did anyone point out how ****ing good that Le Fee corner was for Ballard's goal in the semi.
Dip and bend and pace and accuracy. **** marking but a very ****ing good corner. Set pieces will likely be very important next year. What a signing that boyo is.
Different profile, O'riley is best in the AM roleAnyone think Matt O’Riley from Brighton is a good option? Could he be a Jobe replacement or is he a different profile?
Reads to me like a downward trend from the end of the 2010s. Hopefully we can be an outlier!I sent this in the premier league 25/26 thread but:
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Time will now tell if this trend of the last 2 seasons will continue or if the promoted 3 can resort to the mean of averaging about 35-40 each.
Agreed. I understand that there’s better deals to be had towards the end of the window, whether that be better prices or better players available once their current clubs do their business.I think its massively important that we get most signings in nice and early. Cant be waiting till the end of the transfer window and them missing 5 or so games and needing a while to get match fit
Easier said than done of course, im sure we will be right on it anyway
I’d say there’s zero chance of him signing here, he’s qualityAnyone think Matt O’Riley from Brighton is a good option? Could he be a Jobe replacement or is he a different profile?