Transfer Rumours Summer Transfer window
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Our kids = not good enough for top end Championship = sent to lower league for gametime. They would get better EXPERIENCE playing in the Championship BUT THEY'RE NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
Our first team = play in the Prem (because they're our first team... If we had a bunch of Champions League level players of course we would play them instead and loan out our first team) = will probably get relegated as they step up is so large. But regardless of that, it's better experience than playing in the Championship (which was the entire point of the conversation)
You think it’s a better experience to get hammered every week, sorry but I don’t agree with you.
Now stop with the hypothetical questions please…
Have absolutely no idea mate. Depends on the recruitment, I’d say Ipswich recruitment was poor, spent a lot which everyone loved but no really
A big reason for me wanting to go up this season is that the league will 100% be stronger next year. Ipswich, Leicester and Southampton are better than the current top 3, the spending power of Birmingham and Wrexham coming up, if Luton stay up they still have parachute payments so no chance they won't spend, Coventry and Boro are always spenders and have good squads anyway.
Being 'ready to go up' isn't a thing, no team is ready to go up. Any team that goes up simply has to add at least 5 high level players, if not more, to even compete for 17th. Even if we had the best squad in the Championship had ever seen we would still lose 15+ games in the PL.
Also, waiting around to go up so that our players can develop is another poor argument. If we don't go up this summer there's a high chance we have to sell a load of players. Jobe, Rigg, Neil, Ballard, Mayenda, Hume, Cirkin, Mundle have all been linked away recently. That's alongside already losing Watson plus our loan players. Our squad is going to be completely different next season so it doesn't make sense to suggest that we should wait for these players to develop further when a lot of them have already been a part of 2 playoff campaigns and are being linked with PL moves.
Going up has so many benefits that effectively change the club overnight. I don't see why anyone wouldn't want to go up.
Being 'ready to go up' isn't a thing, no team is ready to go up. Any team that goes up simply has to add at least 5 high level players, if not more, to even compete for 17th. Even if we had the best squad in the Championship had ever seen we would still lose 15+ games in the PL.
Also, waiting around to go up so that our players can develop is another poor argument. If we don't go up this summer there's a high chance we have to sell a load of players. Jobe, Rigg, Neil, Ballard, Mayenda, Hume, Cirkin, Mundle have all been linked away recently. That's alongside already losing Watson plus our loan players. Our squad is going to be completely different next season so it doesn't make sense to suggest that we should wait for these players to develop further when a lot of them have already been a part of 2 playoff campaigns and are being linked with PL moves.
Going up has so many benefits that effectively change the club overnight. I don't see why anyone wouldn't want to go up.
More than if we do
Is that 100% guaranteed?
Also, we would need to be careful - winning too many games would get us promoted; which would be absolutely disastrous….
The thing for me is the medium long term target which is to become established in the premier league. We very probably won’t stay up at the first attempt. If we do, or don’t, get promoted this season it just changes the moves we make for the same simple goal, to inprove the squad until it can compete. We go up you invest in up and coming players. Play them. As a fan you’re not going to watch the team win every week, you’re going to watch a team learn and players flourish and enjoy the victories on the way.
First time round you get relegated but finances are way better and were pick up more youngsters. Next time round the squad that goes up is better. You attract better and can afford better, this time you’ve a fighting chance of staying up.
if you have the right mindset then a relegation season in the prem isn’t a downer. Think of it like watching your own kids play sport, it’s watching them improve that brings the joy.
First time round you get relegated but finances are way better and were pick up more youngsters. Next time round the squad that goes up is better. You attract better and can afford better, this time you’ve a fighting chance of staying up.
if you have the right mindset then a relegation season in the prem isn’t a downer. Think of it like watching your own kids play sport, it’s watching them improve that brings the joy.
As i've said
Well that choice isn't even realistic. But as I've stated I'd be concerned on the long term futures of the youngsters if they are hit with large and demoralising defeats. Especially following recent performances we are struggling to score, and so dull to watch. We'd be hammered against decent teams, even the Mags which I hate to admit. I'd honestly prefer we stay down for another year and strengthen over the summer, and go all out next year. Like I say its only my opinion, I don't expect pelters for stressing an opinion
I’m not giving you pelters by any means, my apologies if it seems I am?
To be clear, personally I want us to win every game we play in.
I want us to win both semi final matches and win again in the play off final.
I would really hope and expect that the players feel the same way.
The natural consequence of winning those games, of course is that we would be promoted.
To hope we aren’t promoted this season, would mean that we lose in the semifinals or the final, which, obviously, I don’t want to happen.
I’m not looking ahead to the predicted doom / glory of next season before this one’s done.
We have a chance of success in the here and now, so why shouldn’t we grab at it with both hands?
Next season will be what it will be, regardless of which league we are in. HTL!!
I’ll be honest. I find the premier league some kind of sick joke. That and pay TV have ruined much of the game. You score and you don’t know if it counts. You have a vast gap between divisions. Fans and kick off times are a mess. Loads of Americanised hype. I also like the model we have, signing enthused youngsters. We’d also lose more often than not in all likelihood and score less goals. There are good things about not being in it. But then I want us to win every week and finish top ….
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Going up is a good thing end of story, better financial resources mean better contracts, attracting better players and more chance of holding onto our best players.
we may get battered every week, we may not only way to find out is to play.
Football is played on the pitch not paper how many lads honestly thought the likes of Hume would step up, I remember him getting pelters after we lost away at walsall under Dodds. Who knows what the likes of Neil, Rigg and co will be capable of.
we may get battered every week, we may not only way to find out is to play.
Football is played on the pitch not paper how many lads honestly thought the likes of Hume would step up, I remember him getting pelters after we lost away at walsall under Dodds. Who knows what the likes of Neil, Rigg and co will be capable of.
If we want to pick and choose the stats, you would assume Jobe leaves if we stay down and we have won 0 games without Jobe since he signed so maybe it wouldn't be more haha.More than if we do
On a serious note though I can see the appeal and trepidation towards going up as the whole process could end up going tits up, but for me I'd rather us at least take that risk with the reward being a place in the premier league for years to come - where that extra money allows our pretty solid recruitment to climb the table over the years. I don't mind staying down another season and then working towards that same goal but I think if we can we should at least try this season - I trust our recruitment to have us in a good place should we come straight back down and trust them far more than the recruitment strategies at some of the previous parachute teams.
One of the best contacts we've given out was to Jack Rodwell.
aye and the ownership of the club at that point was so incompetent couldn't turn a transfer profit unless it was gifted a generational English talent.
can't compare KLD and KS to Short or the Del boys, they have shown to be good negotiators acquiring undervalued players and selling them at a profit. aye they haven't been perfect but the hits have been more frequent than the misses.