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Yeah this. I really like jobe, and he’s done well by us with the profit. But he only really give us one good season, then left. Not knocking a move to Dortmund obviously, a mega club and trying not to sound bitter with this because im really not, just disappointed he hasn’t given us one more year.

Wish him will, can’t say I will follow him at Dortmund and I’ll probably remember him in the same light as I did an Amad or a Clarke. Think he will reach the top though.
Yeah i agree. Another good year we get 50 million. For all the good he’s done and I like him, there feels like a narrative of ‘thanks what he’s given us’. It’s mutual and should remain so. I’m not convinced of it wasn’t him we wouldn’t have played hardball a bit more and my instincts tell me his dad like any agent maybe needed a rain check on who’s in charge.
 
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Wish Jobe nothing but the best.

It was obvious from the moment he signed that we were just one stepping stone in a grand plan that had already been laid out for his career.

Despite that, he’s played with the passion and commitment of someone who’d grown up as a Sunderland fan. It’s been absolutely brilliant to watch him develop and I hope he goes on to play at the very top of the game for the rest of his career.

I actually really like the idea of him and Jude in the same midfield for England one day. I think their skillsets would compliment each other nicely as part of a three.
This, nothing but respect for the lad
 
As been said before, obviously Jobe and his family has planned his career and how they want it to proceed and develop - I can totally understand that. Yes it was said at the time of him signing that we were astepping stone to the next level but the one thing I can't really understand is, it's been said in the media by Jobe that he wants to have his own career and not be compared to his brother - fair dos - but he's going to the one club he will defintely be compared with his brother. I can understand to an extent, Jude was brought on there and the Dortmund made him into the player he is today plus offer Champions League football but if Jobe isn't wanting to be compared to Jude (and lets face it, no matter where he goes, he probably will) but this will totally focus that comparison
It’s one of the things that’s slightly irking me. Even our own fans are saying ‘Doetmund will develop him well’. So do we, in fact we have. Even when off form we gave him space to develop. We need the Sunderland develop people narrative to be as loud as Dortmund’s in this story. We’re a premier league club.
 
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think a number of clubs in the Championship are after him too,

just depends,
there is a deal to be made,
Chris and his partner are settled in the area,
think this is one to watch for
I wonder if Middlesbrough are one of the ones interested - if he’s settled in the north east and we decide to look elsewhere.
 
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It’s one of the things that’s slightly irking me. Even our own fans are saying ‘Doetmund will develop him well’. So do we, in fact we have. Even when off form we have him space to develop. We need the Sunderland develop people narrative to be as loud as Dortmund’s in this story. We’re a premier league club.
Yep. 45 league appearances in his first season here, he was 17 then 18 in the September. What was that, something in the contract…? ;)
 
It’s one of the things that’s slightly irking me. Even our own fans are saying ‘Doetmund will develop him well’. So do we, in fact we have. Even when off form we have him space to develop. We need the Sunderland develop people narrative to be as loud as Dortmund’s in this story. We’re a premier league club.

The bit in bold is true but this is only the start of the club's journey. I would love the club to build players up to be seen as world class playing for us in the Prem but we all know that money talks and it talks loudest in this league. Personally speaking, I think Jobe is on a hiding to nothing no matter where he plays - his brother has made that surname stand out big style.
 
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Good luck Jobe lad. Gave it all here and no one would doubt that. Players move, and that's it.

Missed when he was injured or suspended, and he'll be missed now he's gone. But, as someone said yesterday, four years ago Josh Showed was turning out for us in midfield! I'm sure they have been working on filling the gap.
 
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We have different opinions of ‘very good’, then.

I agree with him. He was very good for a 17 year old. He absolutley should not have started as many games as he did, because being very good for a 17 year old doesn't make you very good for a championship side.

That said - who's to say he's only developed as he has because he started so many games. We can't know what would have happened if he didn't.

So it all worked out for the best. Because for my money we've got promoted at exactly the right time. I think we can all say with hindsight that last year would have been too soon as Mayenda, Hume, Neil, Rigg etc weren't ready but might be now.
 
The bit in bold is true but this is only the start of the club's journey. I would love the club to build players up to be seen as world class playing for us in the Prem but we all know that money talks and it talks loudest in this league. Personally speaking, I think Jobe is on a hiding to nothing no matter where he plays - his brother has made that surname stand out big style.
They are a champions league club so I’m not being naive, but we develop players well these days .
 
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How's it going to do that? His loan has finished and he's gone back to his parent club.If we want him,we're going to have to do a deal...and they'll know we like him,which might drive the price up.


We have sent him back, what will that tell them?
 
They are a champions league club so I’m not being naive, but we develop players well these days .

I think there's an element of the type of football he's playing as well though.

If he stayed here he'd be developing more or less purely as a team that lack possession and are defending for their lives. Which is great. But long term if he aspires to the top he wants to develop and play in teams that dominate possession.

So I can see two reasons why Dortmund tick boxes we don't. 1) they offer him european football ; 2) they offer a more possession dominating style of play
 
As been said before, obviously Jobe and his family has planned his career and how they want it to proceed and develop - I can totally understand that. Yes it was said at the time of him signing that we were astepping stone to the next level but the one thing I can't really understand is, it's been said in the media by Jobe that he wants to have his own career and not be compared to his brother - fair dos - but he's going to the one club he will defintely be compared with his brother. I can understand to an extent, Jude was brought on there and the Dortmund made him into the player he is today plus offer Champions League football but if Jobe isn't wanting to be compared to Jude (and lets face it, no matter where he goes, he probably will) but this will totally focus that comparison

Aye. It's a contradiction, but they are the best bet for him.
 
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