Summer transfer thread

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Scootsie said:
to be fair, you can be a playmaker and not play the 10 role.

I don’t think a player that can sit alongside Evans and dictate from deep would go amiss.
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To be fair to Evans, towards the end of the season he dictated a lot of games. I think we need 2 hard working players in there to cover for the likes of Pritchard, Roberts, Clarke , aswell as the fullbacks who like to get forward
 
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FellTop said:
Dan Neil was outstanding in the first half of the season. So much so we had prem clubs sniffing around and he got England recognition.. What I saw was Neil wanting the ball all the time, not Evans. It was Neil who was playing like the senior in that position, dictating play and urging the team on. Evans was a weak link in the early part of the season for me, he just didnt look confident. Under Alex Neil he was far better when he had a much simpler job. Maybe Dan faded, maybe he hit some bad form, but it certainly wasnt a case he didnt cut it by any means. He is 20, and it was his first season, so he will have stuff to work on naturally. For me he is the most technically gifted young player I have seen come through since the likes of Bridges, he has a massive future in the game.

As for Morrison he just isnt that good in my opinion, and I dont say that to be controversial. He supposedly had his best season last year. Well I watched him probably 5 or 6 times live and he never stood out. I know plenty of derby season ticket holders who said he was a 1 in 5 player. His reputation is built on some mythical talent he had as a kid. It has been very rarely seen on a pitch to any consistent level. Maybe I am wrong, and he will go and have a great few seasons, but at 29 he has yet to prove he is a top end championship player so I would be gutted to see him push someone like Dan Neil down the pecking order, and I doubt it will happen personally.
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THIS....

Was going to write a reply but no need to. Says everything I would have.
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Mackem 10.1 said:
To be fair to Evans, towards the end of the season he dictated a lot of games. I think we need 2 hard working players in there to cover for the likes of Pritchard, Roberts, Clarke , aswell as the fullbacks who like to get forward
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Totally agree with this, we need someone else that can do the same job as Evans. Play alongside him or take his place when he needs a rest, non of our other midfielders can do the same job as him
 
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Robref62 said:
THIS....

Was going to write a reply but no need to. Says everything I would have.
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My view of Neil first bit of the season was that he was very Lee Johnson. Creative and an amazing final ball but defensively a liability, ie the soft pass that led to the breakaway that led to the goal but also the amazing visionary pass that led to a beautiful goal. The better the quality though, the less you can surrender the ball or you get hurt and I think other teams discovered that if you press Neil you get the ball in a punishable place. I don’t think Neil is a number 10 but he’s one who can only play in a three. The new manager may well coach that out of him but it’s a gamble he may not take if he needs us to win games. So for me, and I get why people disagree because of his natural ability, he needs a full year at a place like Oxford or Sheff Wed or Ipswich a level down. Maybe under Neil we can get the lad who keeps the ball and does the dirty bits, but playing games and getting dropped sometimes teaches you better than the training field.
 
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Scout73 said:
No chance would morrison be head and shoulders above neil. I watched Morrison loads last season and he never controlled a game. He also gets caught out of position loads, yes i agree neil does but it was also his 1st ever senior season while morrison has had about 10/11 seasons. Morrions got bailed out loads last season because he had loads of energy around him and max bird was there to mopped up.

Neils ability is his passing, he is always looking to play that forward pass and get us on the front foot. He was class at times last season. I agree positional he got caught out at times but he will learn and improve in this area.
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I agree about his positional sense but the fact is DN was starting to burn out as in his first full season LJ played him far too much and if people recall in one of his first interviews AN said that some of the players were fatigued and needed a rest. Dn was definitely one of these players I think we may see more of him this season but that will be monitored and done right which will enable DN to progress properly and give him time to build up to math pace and fitness
 
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Monkey69 said:
I agree about his positional sense but the fact is DN was starting to burn out as in his first full season LJ played him far too much and if people recall in one of his first interviews AN said that some of the players were fatigued and needed a rest. Dn was definitely one of these players I think we may see more of him this season but that will be monitored and done right which will enable DN to progress properly and give him time to build up to math pace and fitness
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I do agree that Dan is a fine home grown talent.
His form fell away towards the end of last season, he may have been over played?

This is an important season for him he has to become an integral part of the team, otherwise....
 
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Monkey69 said:
I agree about his positional sense but the fact is DN was starting to burn out as in his first full season LJ played him far too much and if people recall in one of his first interviews AN said that some of the players were fatigued and needed a rest. Dn was definitely one of these players I think we may see more of him this season but that will be monitored and done right which will enable DN to progress properly and give him time to build up to math pace and fitness
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AN saw straight away that our younger players had been used too much, not only DN but Doyle as well.
I could see as a fan that these two needed taking out of the firing line and our manager was spot on in doing so which imo went a long way to getting the seasons end we all wanted.
Doyle was used sparingly as a sub but Dan Neil has the talent to make a mark this season when he gets his chance, I've every faith that AN will bring him on and become the player we all know he's capable of.
 
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FellTop said:
Dan Neil was outstanding in the first half of the season. So much so we had prem clubs sniffing around and he got England recognition.. What I saw was Neil wanting the ball all the time, not Evans. It was Neil who was playing like the senior in that position, dictating play and urging the team on. Evans was a weak link in the early part of the season for me, he just didnt look confident. Under Alex Neil he was far better when he had a much simpler job. Maybe Dan faded, maybe he hit some bad form, but it certainly wasnt a case he didnt cut it by any means. He is 20, and it was his first season, so he will have stuff to work on naturally. For me he is the most technically gifted young player I have seen come through since the likes of Bridges, he has a massive future in the game.

As for Morrison he just isnt that good in my opinion, and I dont say that to be controversial. He supposedly had his best season last year. Well I watched him probably 5 or 6 times live and he never stood out. I know plenty of derby season ticket holders who said he was a 1 in 5 player. His reputation is built on some mythical talent he had as a kid. It has been very rarely seen on a pitch to any consistent level. Maybe I am wrong, and he will go and have a great few seasons, but at 29 he has yet to prove he is a top end championship player so I would be gutted to see him push someone like Dan Neil down the pecking order, and I doubt it will happen personally.
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Heard exactly the same. But, there again, Huddersfield fans said the same about Pritchard. Might be a settled thing. Or he might just be another Chris Maguire!!
 
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Sunderpitt said:
I do agree that Dan is a fine home grown talent.
His form fell away towards the end of last season, he may have been over played?

This is an important season for him he has to become an integral part of the team, otherwise....
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Neil is a talent but he vanishes during games, an aspect he needs to improve on.

And I don't buy the 'just a kid and doesn't have the stamina for a full season' theory.

Rudoni, who we're fighting to sign, is the same age and played almost every game in a relegation battle.

As you say, it's time for Neil to step up.
 
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We could apply the arguments above about Neil, equally to one of my favourites Elliot Embleton, he also fades in games , both show outstanding promise, but need to improve and adjust, to become what we all want them to be, an integral part of a Premiership starting eleven. And if anyone can do it , Alex Neil can, and will imo.. Oau
 
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LD19SAFC said:
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There'll be no rush on this one as I'm sure we'll get players in before him. Either Broadhead or Khadra, or even both, will come in to bolster the forward line. Rudoni could cover here as well as midfield if we get him.
 
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Jarca said:
There'll be no rush on this one as I'm sure we'll get players in before him. Either Broadhead or Khadra, or even both, will come in to bolster the forward line. Rudoni could cover here as well as midfield if we get him.
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Got to have someone in who can compete with Stewart this year to keep him peak condition.
 
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A loan would be an odd one for me. I quite like him as a player, and he has plenty of scope to get better. Having said that his goals return is pretty poor in league 1, and last year he was playing for an attacking side. I would be ok with a permanent deal and we develop him for us, but not so much a loan. If we do a loan for a CF I want someone proven at a higher level personally.
 
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