Summer Transfer Rumour Thread.

[SaintsFan86]

Considering they were very open about it the other day, this would be quite telling.

NC doesn't like Negotiations to be open.. So this does indeed signal a possible bid agreed.

 

[Tony Montana]

I'm pretty confident we will sign butland.

 

[RickieLambertsGoldenBoot]

I think something's been agreed..

 

[Lambo's Fluffy Chest Hair]

I love the idea of us signing Butland, but I can't help but feel apprehensive about spending so much on him. It's clear he's a young lad with a lot of talent and he obviously has the potential to be a top top keeper, but weren't we told the same thing when we signed Tommy Forecast?

Just to put it into perspective, City signed Hart for £600,000 from Shrewsbury and we're supposedly willing to spend 10x that on JB. Am I the only one who finds that slightly worrying

 

[hotbovril]

I must confess that I don't remember much of the guy from his PL days. What I do see being north of the border is (unfortunately) quite a bit of the SPL, the quality of which has declined significantly over the last five years or so. I just don't rate the guy but maybe the mundane nature of the game up here is clouding my judgement! The only SPL players I can think of who would potentially do a job are Emilio Izaguirre, Scott Brown, Gary Hooper and Allan McGregor.

I agree with a need for some experience. Momentum will only take us so far.

That's funny, my Celtic fan mate really doesn't rate Scott Brown! Was talking to him today and he says all the Rangers (ahem, I mean Club 12) fans he knows rate the guy, too, he lives in Glasgow so knows quite a few!

Scott Brown is a real enforcer. He's fallen out of favour with some of the Celtic fans due to a couple of injury hit seasons but he would really add some steel. That said, he would probably add some booking related suspensions too but he could definitely provide a platform and has a great engine.

 

[fatletiss]

I love the idea of us signing Butland, but I can't help but feel apprehensive about spending so much on him. It's clear he's a young lad with a lot of talent and he obviously has the potential to be a top top keeper, but weren't we told the same thing when we signed Tommy Forecast?

Just to put it into perspective, City signed Hart for £600,000 from Shrewsbury and we're supposedly willing to spend 10x that on JB. Am I the only one who finds that slightly worrying

The £6m could be £2m up front, then £2m on so many games and £2m on full england cap. If those second things happen, then he'll be worth the money. If they don't happen, we won't be paying.

 

[Dan]

The £6m could be £2m up front, then £2m on so many games and £2m on full england cap. If those second things happen, then he'll be worth the money. If they don't happen, we won't be paying.

Very few deals are 100% up front these days (Rodriguez wasn't) especially for young unproven players. Your figures will probably be about right, FLT.

 

[fatletiss]

Very few deals are 100% up front these days (Rodriguez wasn't) especially for young unproven players. Your figures will probably be about right, FLT.

maybe I made the offer.......

 

[SuperSchneid]

Cant see how he is worth 6 million. Sounds like a prospect but thats a bit ott. Rodriguez was 7mil and he is established at Championship level obviously Butland is younger but not by much. But in truth i will trust NA and NC

 

[Dan]

Cant see how he is worth 6 million. Sounds like a prospect but thats a bit ott. Rodriguez was 7mil and he is established at Championship level obviously Butland is younger but not by much. But in truth i will trust NA and NC

It's not REALLY £6m though. The fee for Walcott was quoted at £12m but that was only £5m up front, this will be much similar.

 

[pass the football]

I love the idea of us signing Butland, but I can't help but feel apprehensive about spending so much on him. It's clear he's a young lad with a lot of talent and he obviously has the potential to be a top top keeper, but weren't we told the same thing when we signed Tommy Forecast?

Just to put it into perspective, City signed Hart for £600,000 from Shrewsbury and we're supposedly willing to spend 10x that on JB. Am I the only one who finds that slightly worrying

City certainly got a good deal, but as has been said already, it won't be £6m up front. If he turns into a world-beater, we'll end up paying more, but if not we won't be spending more than £3m.

And he's absolutely not in the Forecast category! We've actually had a look at him for a start...

 

[SFCJordi]

I love the idea of us signing Butland, but I can't help but feel apprehensive about spending so much on him. It's clear he's a young lad with a lot of talent and he obviously has the potential to be a top top keeper, but weren't we told the same thing when we signed Tommy Forecast?

Just to put it into perspective, City signed Hart for £600,000 from Shrewsbury and we're supposedly willing to spend 10x that on JB. Am I the only one who finds that slightly worrying

Forecast hadn't represented England at any level whatsoever. Butland has represented his country at every level from U16 to U21. That's a pretty decent indicator.

 

[benditlikeabanana]

even at 6 mil, if everything goes wrong he will still have a high re-sale price. unless he turns out to a crock of shyte obviously. i see it as low risk for a very good prospect that can offer 15 years of service, and keepers tend to stay at clubs longer

 

[Tony Montana]

Another thing to add is that his price has obviously gone up due to his inclusion in euros. Now he is tipped to be number one in the Olympic squad and if he plays well in that then it will only drive the price up even more. If we are going to sign him for a realistic price then it has to be done before the olympics.

 

[Lambo's Fluffy Chest Hair]

Forecast hadn't represented England at any level whatsoever. Butland has represented his country at every level from U16 to U21. That's a pretty decent indicator.

I understand that, but take Joe Lewis for example. It wasn't that long ago that he was tipped to be an England #1 and all the big clubs were circling. He represented England at U15, U16, U17, U18, U19 AND U21 level but yet a few years down the line and a couple of howlers later we see him become Posh's second choice keeper behind Paul Jones (Whose now signed for Crawley Town) and then he was actually released earlier on this month.

All I'm saying is it's very hard to judge a keeper at such a young age with so little experience - a major part of actually being a goalkeeper is mental strength and how they're able to cope with making mistakes and the responsibilities that they have.

 

[Dan]

I understand that, but take Joe Lewis for example. It wasn't that long ago that he was tipped to be an England #1 and all the big clubs were circling. He represented England at U15, U16, U17, U18, U19 AND U21 level but yet a few years down the line and a couple of howlers later we see him become Posh's second choice keeper behind Paul Jones (Whose now signed for Crawley Town) and was released at the end of the season.

All I'm saying is it's very hard to judge a keeper at such a young age with so little experience - a major part of actually being a goalkeeper is mental strength and how they're able to cope with making mistakes and the responsibilities that they have.

And then look at Joe Hart. Lewis stayed in lower levels which stunted his development, Hart climbed to the top and excelled. It's a good move for both us and Butland to pick him up, no signing is 100% guaranteed.

 

[SFCJordi]

Wojciech Szczęsny is another good example, granted he was already at Arsenal, and was regarded as a good prospect, but he had a season on loan at Brentford in League 1, and within a year he was Arsenal's first choice keeper, playing Champions League football. Sort of similar to Joe Hart.

 

[st_brendy]

Another thing to add is that his price has obviously gone up due to his inclusion in euros. Now he is tipped to be number one in the Olympic squad and if he plays well in that then it will only drive the price up even more. If we are going to sign him for a realistic price then it has to be done before the olympics.

Agreed. If he plays for GB and does well, Birmingham wil quite rightly hold out for more. And potentially, the interest in Butland wouldf only increase ever more.

 

[Rich]

If we were to sign him I hope its before the Olympics, because you know his 'value' will probably go up even more if he has a good tournament...

 

[st_brendy]

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