Transfer Rumours Summer '23 Transfer Thread

[Cityzen]

Fair comments....
Brighton.. I've been there...Its posh, especially Hove...Its like Hornsea on steroids...Loads of money in Brighton & Hove. Reflected in their fan base, which will be higher than ours, or at least very similar, I would have thought.
Ditto with Norwich...Massive FC are massive fc. They'll have good backing.
Plus what I failed to mention was egg-chasing. A lot of those I chat to are pseudo type egg-chasing numpites.

Lot of money in Brighton but concentrated in a few hand. The average person’s disposable income was the worst, they were number 1 on the list, we were 23 rd so 22 places they surveyed were worse. Funny enough, and I showed someone the article as I said some wouldn’t believe it, next to us on the list was Norwich with slightly less disposable income yet they have sold all their season tickets every season since 2005 including the season they spent in Division 1.
Rugby League is a problem. The only other city that has run 2 rugby league clubs, and the only other city which had 2 rugby league clubs before they had a football league club was Leeds. And that was and is a far bigger city. Other cities associate themselves with the local football club and identify with them but in Hull the local media think Hull is identified by the rugby league clubs (it really isn’t outside of a very narrow area) and too many locals like the big fish in a small pond, a puddle more like, thing. How many games, with one normally against part timers, does it take to get to a Challenge Cup Final?
Like with Wednesday. I have relatives from Sheffield and they have always said most people in Sheffield identify with Wednesday. The United fans tend to all go when they are doing well but in addition to the Wednesday fans who go regularly the ones who don’t go to games identify with Wednesday and think they represent the city.

 

[Kalman]

I've asked a few people if they're buying a membership. The range of answer's, thus far, have being:
1. Might do.
2. No. Too expensive.
3. I'll pick a few games to go to, but I ain't buying a season pass.
4. I'll see how they start the season, then depending on that I might do.
5. Are you ****ing nuts?

Hull has and always will be a low wage city, mirrored by a lower than average national cost of living. With increasing food costs, mortgages, cost of energy etc etc many people just haven't got the bread to folk out on City...Sadly, nothing much changes around here.

The economic aspect may be a factor for some, especially with inflation and the cost of living crisis, but I think it’s a cop-out by others. Hull isn’t unique in being a low-income city.

I think the real and quite frankly depressing reason we have so few fans compared to other clubs like Boro is because the people of Hull are mostly apathetic towards City. Within the city boundaries, you’re more likely to see a Leeds, Liverpool or Man Utd shirt worn by someone than a City shirt. In fact, a large proportion of City’s loyal supporters aren’t actually from Hull but the surrounding East Yorkshire suburbs and villages.

We’re not a fashionable club for many. We don’t have an illustrious history. People in Hull are just as likely to support Leeds instead of City and nothing Acun can do will change that unfortunately because a lot of people are glory supporting twats who should have more shame for supporting another city’s club instead of their hometown one, but they don’t have any shame.

 

[Cityzen]

I would rather have 4000 hardcore dedicated fans in the championship than 30,000 fair weather fans in the premier league.

Are we extending the stadium? Maybe those who go to home matches would prefer a full stadium.
Having said that some of my most enjoyable Saturdays were spent when we were crap with 4,000 like minded fans. It was a good day out. I took my grandson to a game last season now he was 16 and could get in the pub with me for a drink. I met some lads I have known for 50 years, which he thought was amazing knowing people that long when the only connection was City, and a couple of lads off here who know the lads I know. After a good day out before and after the match on the train home he said to me, grandad I finally get it. Could never figure why you and my dad support Hull City when they never do anything. But it is not about that it is about a day out in the company of others like you. He was particularly impressed to hear what were to him a bunch of old blokes discussing meeting up at 12.30 for a few jars the following Friday before setting off for Sheffield for the night game. He was also impressed at how much beer us old fogies could neck down. He imagined people of our age sitting round nursing half pints. He will never be a football fanatic, he is very much into playing rugby union but he wants to come again. In the meantime he has been busy telling Man
Utd and Liverpool fans he knows that they have no idea about what a football supporter is by just supporting a team by watching them on TV.

 

[Mckechnie Orange]

They've been out the door for a year and a half.If people haven't bought into the new owner by now,there's a reasonable chance that they won't.For some people the Allams are a convenient excuse and I'm inclined to agree more with the B&S fan club that personal finances and priorities overrule the football at present.

I know this forum only represents a very small section of Hull City's support but the general consensus on here from those that couldn't abide the Allams,was that the moment they were gone,their direct debit would be re-instated?

When folks mortgages are going up. £500 quid a month then it has to come from somewhere.

But we also have notoriously flaky support when it's not constant success.

 

[Ullofaman]

Plus if the Saudis offer 20,000,000,000 for any players we should chop thier hands off.

I think it is a better option than they chopping our heads off.

 

[Leon...]

It is not a load. Have you seen what other clubs with worse owners and more problems have sold and at higher prices?
Derby in League 1/have sold over 6,000 more so far. We couldn’t fit 10,000 of Sunderland’s season ticket holders into our stadium.

You seem to address this subject, one way or another, every month or so for the past x amount of years. Typically, with the same bits of supplementary info.

How come?

 

[Cityzen]

When folks mortgages are going up. £500 quid a month then it has to come from somewhere.

But we also have notoriously flaky support when it's not constant success.

So, mortgages aren’t going up elsewhere?

 

[Mckechnie Orange]

So, mortgages aren’t going up elsewhere?

Oh they are but by the same amount everywhere so more affluent areas are more resilient to it.

I agree we have flaky support though. If we're not winning every game then they soon drift and that's been a repeating occurrence since the 50s. That's regardless of owner and regardless of inflation.

 

[Cityzen]

You seem to address this subject, one way or another, every month or so for the past x amount of years. Typically, with the same bits of supplementary info.

How come?

Because I get tired of the same excuses for our poor support, people in Hull have no money etc, etc…They found something else to do because of the Allams…

 

[1MoreAgain]

I would rather have 4000 hardcore dedicated fans in the championship than 30,000 fair weather fans in the premier league.

Acun wouldn't.

 

[allowentry]

Residents of hull support lots of prem teams. Local pubs don't help the one on Vicky Dock is advertising they are showing all of man utd friendlies etc, imagine that elsewhere.
We are not a well supported club never have been, never will be, we couldn't even sell out in the prem last time and there were plenty of locals in the home stands blatantly supporting the likes of man utd etc.
I was glad when we were relegated, crazy I know but at least I wasn't surrounded by plastics.

 

[Mckechnie Orange]

Acun wouldn't.

Club wouldn't be in the championship very long with 4k gates.

 

[Cityzen]

Oh they are but by the same amount everywhere so more affluent areas are more resilient to it.

I agree we have flaky support though. If we're not winning every game then they soon drift and that's been a repeating occurrence since the 50s.

That is not correct. Mortgages in more affluent areas are larger so will go up more. Read my earlier post about disposable income. There are a lot of cities worse off than Hull, it was 23 rd on the list.Supposedly affluent Brighton after mortgages, rent, rates etc had the lowest disposable income for the average person there.
Very few people in Hull will see a mortgage increase of £500 and that is not anticipated until 2026.

 

[Ric Glasgow]

Acun wouldn't.

Quite!! And I wouldn't see some people's idea of him being here for 'the long haul' being an overly long,long haul...

 

[GLP]

Why does Castro even follow City? Criticises the area, criticises the fan base.

 

[Mckechnie Orange]

That is not correct. Mortgages in more affluent areas are larger so will go up more. Read my earlier post about disposable income. There are a lot of cities worse off than Hull, it was 23 rd on the list.Supposedly affluent Brighton after mortgages, rent, rates etc had the lowest disposable income for the average person there.
Very few people in Hull will see a mortgage increase of £500 and that is not anticipated until 2026.

It's a percentage of income mate. Inflation never impacts all communities the same and the more affluent have more disposable in the first place to bridge the gap.

Why can't you accept that both financial and cultural effects are at play? It's not mutually exclusive.

 

[The B&S Fanclub]

I think the real and quite frankly depressing reason we have so few fans compared to other clubs like Boro is because the people of Hull are mostly apathetic towards City. Within the city boundaries, you’re more likely to see a Leeds, Liverpool or Man Utd shirt ....

All true. I know local guys who follow Liverpool, Spurs, Man Utd etc..etc...I am 100% certain you do as well....But they've never been to see them and wouldn't even go if you gave them a free ticket and the train fare to get there....Infact they wouldn't be able to find Anfield, White Hart, Old Trafford etc.etc once they got there. These are the Sky armchair brigade. They were brought up when City were ****, or went for a year or two and just stopped going never to return. Plus a few dropped football and went glory hunting with Rovers or Hull. I would suggest that the likes of Mbro and Sunderland, probably have a greater community spirit than Hull, though I'm not an expert. Plus they are stuck way up there. They don't have RL or any other competitors for the £ in their pocket or attention. Someone once told me that City would rival Sunderland for demand, if it wasn't for RL. At the time I thought that was BS, but now I think he was probably right.

 

[Cityzen]

Why does Castro even follow City? Criticises the area, criticises the fan base.

I follow them because they are the team nearest to me and have done so for 60 years. And .i don’t have blinkers on about Hull. The biggest City fanatic I have ever known, Urika knows who I am referring to, didn’t like spending too much time in Hull other than at City games as he thought was full of moaning, small minded people who didn’t support their club.

 

[Mckechnie Orange]

I follow them because they are the team nearest to me and have done so for 60 years. And .i don’t have blinkers on about Hull. The biggest City fanatic I have ever known, Urika knows who I am referring to, didn’t like spending too much time in Hull other than at City games as he thought was full of moaning, small minded people who didn’t support their club.

That's absolute bollocks if this place is anything to go by

 

[HulltoHellandback]

The economic aspect may be a factor for some, especially with inflation and the cost of living crisis, but I think it’s a cop-out by others. Hull isn’t unique in being a low-income city.

I think the real and quite frankly depressing reason we have so few fans compared to other clubs like Boro is because the people of Hull are mostly apathetic towards City. Within the city boundaries, you’re more likely to see a Leeds, Liverpool or Man Utd shirt worn by someone than a City shirt. In fact, a large proportion of City’s loyal supporters aren’t actually from Hull but the surrounding East Yorkshire suburbs and villages.

We’re not a fashionable club for many. We don’t have an illustrious history. People in Hull are just as likely to support Leeds instead of City and nothing Acun can do will change that unfortunately because a lot of people are glory supporting twats who should have more shame for supporting another city’s club instead of their hometown one, but they don’t have any shame.

The amount of times me and my dad have had "L***s L***s L***s" or similar shouted at us during our walk to and from the MKM over the years, but especially the last couple while they've been in the Prem, is shameful. Had less stick for supporting City in my 30 years of living in bloody Leeds and the surrounding area