Transfer Rumours Summer 2024

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For what it’s worth, would like to see JWP back here but being used further forward than he ended up playing before he left…. His departure always seemed more like it had to happen financially and ambition wise for him rather than he wanted to…. Can see Wet Spam accepting a loan with obligation… he needs to be somewhere where he’s appreciated and loved …. If it’s him, Ramsdale, Fraser and Yuri, it would be a pretty tidy window….
 
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Pelletron said:
Sort of (once) transfer related, but Hurzeler just did his presser, and said Matt O'Riley faces a lengthy spell out, requiring surgery on his ankle after that challenge earlier in the week.
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I know some think this is funny but I am a bit gutted for the guy. Gets his big move and is immediately clobbered by some lower league idiot.
 
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Wherefore art thou Romeu? said:
For all the angst and moaning, we'll likely end this window having spent £130m. 10+ players in the first team squad. And spent it pretty well from where I'm sat.

We will still have a massive up hill battle to stay up which says more about the strength and money in the PL than anything we can control, tbh.

Sure I'd always like more but equally pleased to see the club run in the right way and back in the big time, however short lived.
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I think the almost £40m spent on Downes and THB really makes it feel like we haven't spent much.
 
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Yeah I feel sorry for the guy. I’m sure the increased wages will help cushion the blow but was interested to see if he was going to live up to the hype in the PL or not.
 
Saintmagic said:
There is also the possibility that the board have changed their mind and gone down the “**** PSR” route and decide to spend anyway and deal with the consequences later. From their perspective staying in the PL is so important from a financial point of view. They can say all the “keep the club financially safe” etc in the press but behind the scenes they might have seen the first 2 PL games and reality has hit home about how much is needed to stay up.

I don’t think we will spend much more/anything more after Ramsdale. Can see Fraser joining and that’s it, hopefully another attacking player on loan as well
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It depends on if the issue is cashflow, PSR or both. And how much we want to defer / spread into future years

Assuming a four year deal Ramsdale only counts as about 5m against this year’s PSR. And another circa 20m signings will also count as similar. So it might not even be a case of “**** PSR” but rather the Alcaraz sale giving something close to 10m “profit” from an accounting sense that can be bizarrely spread on much more expensive players but just impact future budgets and likely mean sales are required in the future.

But lots of clubs are doing that. Wolves suddenly aren’t spending but that one is odd as they have lots of net incomings. I expect that is because their previous dealings that always seemed suspect and far too favourable to them (top Portuguese players joining on relatively low wages). And Arsenal throwing out close to 400m over three years and not really selling and now unable to sign a striker without sales despite being propped up by much better commercial revenue

It seems very complicated and not as simple as fees in and fees out (at least not on a single window basis)

Or it could be that urgent action was taken on the goalkeeper front and a permanent deal really wasn’t planned for and will have a significant impact elsewhere. It’s big more from loaning a Dutch keeper to an 18m signings in a matter of days. We probably will only see loans / frees now regardless of sales
 
Ronnie Hotdog (MLsfc) said:
I think the almost £40m spent on Downes and THB really makes it feel like we haven't spent much.
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I always used to remember this from the FM days when saints were in the lower leagues. How annoying it was to rely on loan players and then have to blow your budget to basically start from where you left off. Along with identifying gems that wouldn’t join you in the championship. I think Lewandowski eventually joined from Poland but a year later than I would have liked…
 
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Can’t help but think I’d be disappointed if only one “forward” came given links to both a central striker and wingers. Wonder how much of it comes down to the others leaving. First I think I’ve seen of Kamaldeen actually being for sale. And I’m sure he’d get us an “accounting loss” so that would be for cashflow and wage bill purposes primarily
 
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I know some think this is funny but I am a bit gutted for the guy. Gets his big move and is immediately clobbered by some lower league idiot.
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And people wonder why there is so much rotation in that competition. Imagine if we’d spent that on him and the same things happened. We are in far less a position to absorb that
 
Le Tissier's Laces said:
Couldn’t agree more. It’s not at all funny. Such a weird take.
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It was reported he agreed terms with us so was happy to come here too. He didn’t snub us, we just decided not to pay what Celtic wanted and someone else did. Assume it’s just Twitter kids who don’t know how to control their emotions into rational responses who are the ones laughing.
 
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Gregm1988 said:
It depends on if the issue is cashflow, PSR or both. And how much we want to defer / spread into future years

Assuming a four year deal Ramsdale only counts as about 5m against this year’s PSR. And another circa 20m signings will also count as similar. So it might not even be a case of “**** PSR” but rather the Alcaraz sale giving something close to 10m “profit” from an accounting sense that can be bizarrely spread on much more expensive players but just impact future budgets and likely mean sales are required in the future.

But lots of clubs are doing that. Wolves suddenly aren’t spending but that one is odd as they have lots of net incomings. I expect that is because their previous dealings that always seemed suspect and far too favourable to them (top Portuguese players joining on relatively low wages). And Arsenal throwing out close to 400m over three years and not really selling and now unable to sign a striker without sales despite being propped up by much better commercial revenue

It seems very complicated and not as simple as fees in and fees out (at least not on a single window basis)

Or it could be that urgent action was taken on the goalkeeper front and a permanent deal really wasn’t planned for and will have a significant impact elsewhere. It’s big more from loaning a Dutch keeper to an 18m signings in a matter of days. We probably will only see loans / frees now regardless of sales
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Wolves are buying Johnstone (not sure on fee) and £20m on Andre from Fluminense. Not sure if they have anyone else lined up
 
Gregm1988 said:
Can’t help but think I’d be disappointed if only one “forward” came given links to both a central striker and wingers. Wonder how much of it comes down to the others leaving. First I think I’ve seen of Kamaldeen actually being for sale. And I’m sure he’d get us an “accounting loss” so that would be for cashflow and wage bill purposes primarily
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Pleasantly surprised how good the shots were from Archer, Fernandes and SAA in and around the box last night, Archer especially… I know finishing from attackers has been worked on (from the Solent interview) but it looked very natural and that has been at a premium for years…!!!
 
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SaintsFan86 said:
We want JWP, that loan being left is BIG.
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If we are in for him then surely means another CM is leaving. Or Lallana just isn’t going to feature much/at all.

Downes, Aribo, Smallbone, Fernandes, Ugochukwu, Dibling, Lallana, JWP is just way too many who would all be wanting to play.

Am I right in saying Dibling has been a right winger for most of his career at youth level? Could be that we use him there to make space for JWP/remove the need for a new right winger and then Lallana is hardly used
 
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Saintmagic said:
If we are in for him then surely means another CM is leaving. Or Lallana just isn’t going to feature much/at all.

Downes, Aribo, Smallbone, Fernandes, Ugochukwu, Dibling, Lallana, JWP is just way too many who would all be wanting to play.

Am I right in saying Dibling has been a right winger for most of his career at youth level? Could be that we use him there to make space for JWP/remove the need for a new right winger and then Lallana is hardly used
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I think Lallana will be used more than we think.
 
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Saintmagic said:
If we are in for him then surely means another CM is leaving. Or Lallana just isn’t going to feature much/at all.

Downes, Aribo, Smallbone, Fernandes, Ugochukwu, Dibling, Lallana, JWP is just way too many who would all be wanting to play.

Am I right in saying Dibling has been a right winger for most of his career at youth level? Could be that we use him there to make space for JWP/remove the need for a new right winger and then Lallana is hardly used
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In my opinion the only way it works is if we are planning to play jwp as an AM. The he's really only competing with Aribo and Fernandes. Still think Aribo might be moved on though because not sure how many chances he will get in that scenario.
 
Saintmagic said:
If we are in for him then surely means another CM is leaving. Or Lallana just isn’t going to feature much/at all.

Downes, Aribo, Smallbone, Fernandes, Ugochukwu, Dibling, Lallana, JWP is just way too many who would all be wanting to play.

Am I right in saying Dibling has been a right winger for most of his career at youth level? Could be that we use him there to make space for JWP/remove the need for a new right winger and then Lallana is hardly used
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Dibling has always been a winger / sometimes a forward. Midfield was pretty new yesterday as far as I know. So he did pretty well.
 
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