Transfer Rumours Summer 2024 transfer thread

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Tbf, that post (below) is a very reasonable, balanced, realistic one at this stage!!

-> "Think the first couple months will be a grim watch. New coach and coaching staff and an almost entirely new squad to gel together. Every day there’s a new rumoured outgoing. McLoughlin is today’s. I hope to be proven wrong and we start the season strong but I can definitely see us at the bottom end of the table by October. I just can’t see us having a cohesive and settled squad by August 10th. It’s a massive ask of Walter".

Although I don't necessarily share his point of view, I can see where Kalman is coming from. If you look at what Acun says and what is happening, one would question why we are signing players like Moore instead of the gems the likes of Boro and Norwich seem to constantly find. It could be frustrating if you have high expectations, but I think given how much we spent in the last couple of years, we were always going to have to sell some assets to continue to push. It would be fair to say that even if Jaden or Greaves didn't ask to leave, one would have to go just to give us some profit and we'd be getting through this season with barely any signings of note. Because of their sales, it gives us breathing room.

That being said, I don't know how Norwich aren't in the **** as they posted a £20m loss in 2022 and a £21m loss in 2023. They seem to do some stuff surrounding shares as James Hill bought £10m worth back in April of this year. Somebody who knows accounts can have a look and maybe explain to me how they're doing it using the link below. To be fair they've only signed Cordoba for £2m so far.

NORWICH CITY FOOTBALL CLUB PLC filing history - Find and update company information - GOV.UK (company-information.service.gov.uk)
 
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Also, sticking with the Norwich theme (and thereby violating our new golden rule, sorry about that), assuming they don't sell anybody their forward line with players like Idah, Sainz, Sargent, Fassnacht and Hernandez is going to take some stopping. I think they'll be gunning for automatic promotion unless they get their players nicked.
 
You need to smoke a joint mate and take a break. It’s becoming a genuine concern how negative you have become!
We know absolutely nothing, zip, about what is going on behind the scenes. You cant spend your life worrying about things out of your control, it makes you sick.

Enjoy the ride, we will be signing players and if they're crap we can at least enjoy the best food in the Championship and throw sausages at Tim.
Not at them prices we aren’t
 
Although I don't necessarily share his point of view, I can see where Kalman is coming from. If you look at what Acun says and what is happening, one would question why we are signing players like Moore instead of the gems the likes of Boro and Norwich seem to constantly find. It could be frustrating if you have high expectations, but I think given how much we spent in the last couple of years, we were always going to have to sell some assets to continue to push. It would be fair to say that even if Jaden or Greaves didn't ask to leave, one would have to go just to give us some profit and we'd be getting through this season with barely any signings of note. Because of their sales, it gives us breathing room.

That being said, I don't know how Norwich aren't in the **** as they posted a £20m loss in 2022 and a £21m loss in 2023. They seem to do some stuff surrounding shares as James Hill bought £10m worth back in April of this year. Somebody who knows accounts can have a look and maybe explain to me how they're doing it using the link below. To be fair they've only signed Cordoba for £2m so far.

NORWICH CITY FOOTBALL CLUB PLC filing history - Find and update company information - GOV.UK (company-information.service.gov.uk)

I don’t particularly care that we’re selling Greaves and Philogene. I’ve known for months that both would definitely leave this summer. I just hoped we’d get north of £40 million. I also didn’t think we’d any have chance of getting Delap either. My concern is with the recruitment. It’s been poor under Acun. For all the talk of replicating Brighton and Brentford, we don’t seem to resemble that model at all. We don’t have a Director of Football and after Philogene and Greaves go, we have no really valuable assets in the pipeline. The striker situation is baffling to me as Walter prefers playing with a mobile forward who can do a bit of everything i.e. linking up with midfield, holding the ball up, making runs in behind, drifting wide, turning and dribbling at defences and pressing out of possession. So why have we recalled Óscar, who does none of that and is a pure poacher? And why are we signing Moore who is a good target man and poacher but also lacks mobility and isn’t effective at high pressing? Moore won’t be cheap either and that was one of the reasons people on here justified selling Tufan to get him off the wage bill. I just think there’s a huge disconnect in what Acun pretends we are and what we’re doing in reality which more often than not is signing aging players on lucrative long-term deals that is just not profitable for the club in the long run.
 
Also, sticking with the Norwich theme (and thereby violating our new golden rule, sorry about that), assuming they don't sell anybody their forward line with players like Idah, Sainz, Sargent, Fassnacht and Hernandez is going to take some stopping. I think they'll be gunning for automatic promotion unless they get their players nicked.

I thought they were crap last year despite beating us twice. Sara and Sainz are very good players mind.
 
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Tbf, that post (below) is a very reasonable, balanced, realistic one at this stage!!

-> "Think the first couple months will be a grim watch. New coach and coaching staff and an almost entirely new squad to gel together. Every day there’s a new rumoured outgoing. McLoughlin is today’s. I hope to be proven wrong and we start the season strong but I can definitely see us at the bottom end of the table by October. I just can’t see us having a cohesive and settled squad by August 10th. It’s a massive ask of Walter".
Its not even the middle of July man! McLoughlin hardly played last year, why would that be a worry if he left? We have a wealthy owner who has a wealthy mate that seems to like us. We are selling 2 players for north of £25m profit allegedly and have cleared our wage bill of some high earners recently. Why would anyone be panicking now that we wont have a decent squad in a few weeks time?
 
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Also, sticking with the Norwich theme (and thereby violating our new golden rule, sorry about that), assuming they don't sell anybody their forward line with players like Idah, Sainz, Sargent, Fassnacht and Hernandez is going to take some stopping. I think they'll be gunning for automatic promotion unless they get their players nicked.
You’ve left out Ashley Barnes. Their equivalent of Kieffer Moore.
 
I don’t particularly care that we’re selling Greaves and Philogene. I’ve known for months that both would definitely leave this summer. I just hoped we’d get north of £40 million. I also didn’t think we’d any have chance of getting Delap either. My concern is with the recruitment. It’s been poor under Acun. For all the talk of replicating Brighton and Brentford, we don’t seem to resemble that model at all. We don’t have a Director of Football and after Philogene and Greaves go, we have no really valuable assets in the pipeline. The striker situation is baffling to me as Walter prefers playing with a mobile forward who can do a bit of everything i.e. linking up with midfield, holding the ball up, making runs in behind, drifting wide, turning and dribbling at defences and pressing out of possession. So why have we recalled Óscar, who does none of that and is a pure poacher? And why are we signing Moore who is a good target man and poacher but also lacks mobility and isn’t effective at high pressing? Moore won’t be cheap either and that was one of the reasons people on here justified selling Tufan to get him off the wage bill. I just think there’s a huge disconnect in what Acun pretends we are and what we’re doing in reality which more often than not is signing aging players on lucrative long-term deals that is just not profitable for the club in the long run.
I agree, if Walter has said yes to Moore though then he must have a plan
 
Its not even the middle of July man! McLoughlin hardly played last year, why would that be a worry if he left? We have a wealthy owner who has a wealthy mate that seems to like us. We are selling 2 players for north of £25m profit allegedly and have cleared our wage bill of some high earners recently. Why would anyone be panicking now that we wont have a decent squad in a few weeks time?
No idea.
No, really no idea whatsover!
None.
Zilch.
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p.s. I'm not actually panicking myself. Very concerned but not panicking. I simply said that tbf that was a reasonable take by Kalman; whether you agree or not it is a realistic scenario at this stage.
 
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I agree, if Walter has said yes to Moore though then he must have a plan

I wouldn’t mind Moore as an option off the bench but if we plan on having him and Óscar as our main strikers, that’s my concern. I also wonder what the plan is to replace Greaves. I’ve seen people mention Scott McKenna. Whilst on paper he seems a decent replacement, I feel that would be another stop-gap signing as he’s nowhere near as athletic or as good on the ball as Greaves. In fact, aside from being left-footed and good in the air, they aren’t similar at all.

I go back to Brentford because when they sold Watkins to Villa, they spent a decent chunk of it on Toney. They didn’t sign an older player with ‘experience’ at this level. They went out and got the younger highly-rated kid from the division below because he had more potential to develop and make a profit.
 
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No idea.
No, really no idea whatsover!
:emoticon-0112-wonde
:emoticon-0127-lipss
:emoticon-0138-think

p.s. I'm not actually panicking myself. Very concerned but not panicking. I simply said that tbf that was a reasonable take by Kalman; whether you agree or not it is a realistic scenario at this stage.
You think it is a reasonable take, I think it is unreasonable. Emphasising a 'new coach' and 'new staff' and 'new squad to gel together' is one way of looking at it. But had the whole squad from last year been sat there waiting for Tim and his 'new staff' would it still not be a challenge to 'gel the squad together' or would it be easier to change the whole footballing philosophy of the group because they all know each others girlfriends names and some of them have been to watch shows together at the Bonus arena?

Pre-Season is pre-season.The coach will give players their codes of conducts, play books, personal schedules and they will spend a few weeks doing mainly fitness based stuff waiting for the group to be completed and at some point in there they will have a few beers. If we sign Foden after the Euros I am sure him and Coyle will be just fine playing with each other after a couple of weeks training.
 
I wouldn’t mind Moore as an option off the bench but if we plan on having him and Óscar as our main strikers, that’s my concern. I also wonder what the plan is to replace Greaves. I’ve seen people mention Scott McKenna. Whilst on paper he seems a decent replacement, I feel that would be another stop-gap signing as he’s nowhere near as athletic or as good on the ball as Greaves. In fact, aside from being left-footed and good in the air, they aren’t similar at all.
I think your raise a decent argument, maybe some of us reacted positively to Moore because he’s a decent championship striker and we don’t have any. I personally don’t rate Óscar and unlike some don’t think he’s coming back as the next Didier Drogba. Theres a reason Metz binned him and he’s warmed a bench in Brazil. If he’s as good as this board thinks, why didn’t he end up in Europe?Your right about him or Óscar not been a natural fit for Tim. It may well be that we bring someone else in. But then there’s a lot of wages between him and Óscar keeping the bench warm.
It would be unfair or acun to say he wants entertaining football and bring Tim over to do that, but then give him a different type of player.
 
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