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The problem with that, as I'm sure you know, there will be people who should be in A&E, as their first trip with symptoms yet unexplained to them of a medical condition. So by the time they do get treatment, there is possibilty their symptoms may have progressed to a more severe stage.

Yeh, there may be some of that. I'm not sure they're empty bcos ppl aren't going to A&E. It could be that ppl who are turning up are being seen quicker bcos others with less trivial matters have decided to stay away.
 
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Also worth remembering that there are a large number of people who go to A&E because they find it impossible to get an appointment to see their GP.

We need more GPs and more doctors. It would help with how over worked they are due to lack of personnel. Of course that means paying them what they're worth.
 
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We need more GPs and more doctors. It would help with how over worked they are due to lack of personnel. Of course that means paying them what they're worth.


At the risk of repeating myself, the same thing happens every time the Tories have been in power for any long period of time; we desperately need a Labour government, to repair our hospitals, our schools, and all our public services, to reduce homelessness, get rid of the need for food banks, and narrow the gap between rich and poor to create a more cohesive society. Beats me how that isn't as clear to everyone as the nose on their face.
 
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Also worth remembering that there are a large number of people who go to A&E because they find it impossible to get an appointment to see their GP.

I tend to find the easiest way to get a doctors appointment, if you can't get pass the receptionist and rather than going to A&E. Is to complete an online form with your doctors practise. They then have 48 hours max to reply to that form, I describe what they do as triaging it - so the receptionist receives the form (I assume), then a decision is made in which direction does it go, doctor, nurse or is it just simple administration.

Generally you will know when you send the form if it's the latter, you know what's wrong with you, you have history, you know what you require in way of help, it may even be much simpler matters than that.

You may even know the doctor actually can't help you, because you are under the consultant, then it's their secretary you need to be contacting or that department within the hospital, not the doctors practise, but a lot of patients may not know that.

Other than that, a nurse from the doctors practise may call you, or your doctor may even call you back within an hour or two and ask you to come in that same day, hence you've bypassed the receptionist. You just sit at home and wait, which is far better for you than sitting in A&E, you will also have had confirmation your form has been received.

Where it can fall apart is if the hospital department you are under is under extreme pressure, then it just becomes a knock affect to everything within the NHS ie the snowball starts rolling, which is most times and people end up rolling into A&E. Some patients don't even know what's the best route to take, maybe they've not been ill before, this in itself can cause problems and frustrations to the patient and in itself generates complaints.

So as Labour did last time, you need to get the wait times down in every area, but they should piss the next election, easy peasy, so the future looks bright. :bandit:
 
I tend to find the easiest way to get a doctors appointment, if you can't get pass the receptionist and rather than going to A&E. Is to complete an online form with your doctors practise. They then have 48 hours max to reply to that form, I describe what they do as triaging it - so the receptionist receives the form (I assume), then a decision is made in which direction does it go, doctor, nurse or is it just simple administration.

Generally you will know when you send the form if it's the latter, you know what's wrong with you, you have history, you know what you require in way of help, it may even be much simpler matters than that.

You may even know the doctor actually can't help you, because you are under the consultant, then it's their secretary you need to be contacting or that department within the hospital, not the doctors practise, but a lot of patients may not know that.

Other than that, a nurse from the doctors practise may call you, or your doctor may even call you back within an hour or two and ask you to come in that same day, hence you've bypassed the receptionist. You just sit at home and wait, which is far better for you than sitting in A&E, you will also have had confirmation your form has been received.

Where it can fall apart is if the hospital department you are under is under extreme pressure, then it just becomes a knock affect to everything within the NHS ie the snowball starts rolling, which is most times and people end up rolling into A&E. Some patients don't even know what's the best route to take, maybe they've not been ill before, this in itself can cause problems and frustrations to the patient and in itself generates complaints.

So as Labour did last time, you need to get the wait times down in every area, but they should piss the next election, easy peasy, so the future looks bright. :bandit:


My GP surgery were pretty good last time I had to use them, about an ear infection which was during lockdown. Had to fill out the online form, them got called back and seen the same day. But what about all the people who aren’t comfortable doing online forms, don’t have a laptop or smartphone etc?
 
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My GP surgery were pretty good last time I had to use them, about an ear infection which was during lockdown. Had to fill out the online form, them got called back and seen the same day. But what about all the people who aren’t comfortable doing online forms, don’t have a laptop or smartphone etc?

Yup, I agree, but it's the same scenario like those same people having to deal with cashless or using parking apps, then no one cares. Even labour won't change that.

I've just found the general attitude towards it to be adapt or tough shhite and that's before we even chat about the percentage of people who genuinly cannot afford to adapt.

Society in a way has created a divide between young and elderly, the young are born into it, thus it leaves the elderly open to fraud, a lot of fraud. I think the government should be doing more to help these people, but I won't bore you with the details of what I think should be done.
 
Yup, I agree, but it's the same scenario like those same people having to deal with cashless or using parking apps, then no one cares. Even labour won't change that.

I've just found the general attitude towards it to be adapt or tough shhite and that's before we even chat about the percentage of people who genuinly cannot afford to adapt.

Society in a way has created a divide between young and elderly, the young are born into it, thus it leaves the elderly open to fraud, a lot of fraud. I think the government should be doing more to help these people, but I won't bore you with the details of what I think should be done.

I think we should just go back to the 1970s basically, before everything started turning to ****. Bring back T. Rex on TOTPs, and Led Zep on the Old Grey Whistle Test

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I think we should just go back to the 1970s basically, before everything started turning to ****. Bring back T. Rex on TOTPs, and Led Zep on the Old Grey Whistle Test

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1960's were better tho because we actually thought things could change and everyone would be better off

1970's were where we found out they would not get better but only worse 1974 - 1979

The rest as they say is History
 
1960's were better tho because we actually thought things could change and everyone would be better off

1970's were where we found out they would not get better but only worse 1974 - 1979

The rest as they say is History


Maggie Thatcher ****ed it all up bruv. Turned us into a dog-eat-cat society, every man for himself and **** the poor, the weak and the lame. We used to look after each other in this country, now we just hurry on by, ignoring the people sleeping in doorways.
 
Maggie Thatcher ****ed it all up bruv. Turned us into a dog-eat-cat society, every man for himself and **** the poor, the weak and the lame. We used to look after each other in this country, now we just hurry on by, ignoring the people sleeping in doorways.

The only reason Thatcher got in with a large majority was because the previous Labour Government TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY ****ed up our country

Years later the electorate gave Labour YET another chance and we ended up with Blair and Brown, they even sold the gold reserves and stole £6b a year from the pension pots for 13 years to fund their totally ****ed up policies

Labour and their supporters have got the Government they richly deserve because of those two previous Labour Governments

I will reiterate previous statements I HAVE NEVER VOTED TORY AND NEVER WILL but Labour always promised and NEVER EVER fulfilled their promises
 
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The only reasonThatcher got in with a large majority was because the previous Labour Government TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY ****ed up our country

Years later the electorate gave Labour YET another chance and we ended up with Blair and Brown, they even sold the gold reserves and stole £6b a year from the pension pots for 13 years to fund their totally ****ed up policies

Labour and their supporters have got the Government they richly deserve because of those two previous Labour Governments

I will reiterate previous statements I HAVE NEVER VOTED TORY AND NEVER WILL but Labour always promised and NEVER EVER fulfilled their promises

Quite a lot of stuff improved under Blair, mate. Not sure anything has improved recently.
 
Yes courseThe illegal Iraq war, the carnage in the Middle East, ISIS, the underground bombings, Yes Sir we owe Blair and Brown a massive debt, which they have kindly left my country with

Debt is now around 100% of GDP which is much higher than what Blair and Brown left your country with.
 
Blair and Brown financially managed the war in Ukraine and a global pandemic far better than the Tories.
 
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Debt is now around 100% of GDP which is much higher than what Blair and Brown left your country with.

COVID and the furlough money cost us more than anyone could've imagined, however if they had not paid people to stay at home they would have been accused of murdering thousands of people to save money, no win situation whoever was in charge
 
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COVID and the furlough money cost us more than anyone could've imagined, however if they had not paid people to stay at home they would have been accused of murdering thousands of people to save money, no win situation whoever was in charge

The debt was much higher than anything under Blair/Brown before Covid.