The NHS is ****ed, people just wanna ignore how much more expensive treatment has become, or how much simply keeping the places clean of MRSA costs, for example.
we can save it, of course, but no one wants to pay the extra tax.
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we can save it, of course, but no one wants to pay the extra tax.
I think I'm right in saying @brb and I (with largely opposing views on most things politically) both would, certainly if it was a choice between a better NHS or income tax cuts.
It's a combination of more money but also using the money already being provided being used more effectively.... i.e. reducing waste and less spent on managers and more on medical professionals.
I'm all for making savings but the cynic in me worries that we make those savings, but the money isn't reinvested to where it's needed i.e. to retain medical staff and train others, as well as modern treatments.
I've never agreed with lowering taxes if that's the question. I can remember when basic tax was 25% might have been even higher (can't remember) and when it was lowered, I was like why? Because services suffer as a result. Taxation reducing should be taken out of politics as a cherry, leave it alone, stop messing about with it, and people will just accept it as part and parcel of life, the same as I did in my younger days, even when I was struggling financially, because there will always be someone worse off than you.
of course it would be wasted, you'll always have the wrong people in charge because those above the would rather have their arse licked than hear unpaletable truths.
It'll get taken out of the NHS and siphoned off elsewhere.
We'd probably all be given a penny off our taxes lol
controversial but i would probably create some law that prevent any litigation of the NHS. If you're happy to use the NHS and they **** up, thats just tough ****. Obviously anyone actively sabotaging their patients will stay go to prison but i wonder how much money the NHS wastes on paying people out/chancers/making sure everything is filled in correctly.
not as much as gets put in brown envelopes and the extra cost of the overpriced equipment from non-tendered contracts those brown envelopes ensure, I'd bet.
Tricky one this tbh. There are genuine cases of malpractice (not sabotage) which doctors/hospitals should be held accountable for. Particularly where the most vulnerable are concerned like recent cases with pregnant women or children like the boy at the hospital in Rotherham.
I think the laws for litigation should be tightened so that chancers and "ambulance chasing" legal firms can't exploit the system for a payout.
I also think that medical professionals and hospitals should feel some degree of responsibility hanging over them. And if you take away any form of litigation then hubris and arrogance sets in.
True story mate - my mum had throat cancer 11 years ago. She had to go in for chemotherapy. Eventually they let her go home and only come in for the 3/4 days to have the chemo then go home and come for the next cycle. And it was usually at night time. On one occasion she went in, the nurse put the canula in and attached the chemo drip. She then left, it was the night shift, fewer nurses, nobody checked on my mum for 6 hours.
Turns out the nurse had missed the vein. For 6 hours that highly toxic drug was going into my mum's arm burning pretty much every nerve and cell in her lower arm and hand. By the end her arm and hand were dark brown and almost paralysed. It took years of physio and all sorts of topical medicine and massages etc. She still can't hold things properly with her right hand, but thankfully she's ok.
My mum was frail and all us siblings had been involved throughout the treatment so the consultant called the whole family in the next day along with the MacMillan nurse. We weren't looking for no pay out although no doubt we had a slam dunk case for probably tens of thousands. We weren't interested because all we cared about was the state of our mum and what it meant for her arm, her hand, and the cancer treatment. And ALL we were looking for was some acknowledgment that they had failed my mum, some contrition and to show they cared. And tbf to the consultant and staff they did just that.
And that was enough. Even for my mum because in her mind, they're not waking up in the morning to screw someone's arm, leg or life over. They're working tirelessly to save lives - her life. My mum never had a bad word to say because she put it in context, they'd done so much for her, and that consultant and even the nurse have probably saved many lives.
Btw the consultant made a point of outlining the procedure for making a complaint and that the hospital had accepted liability. My mum wasn't interested and told him there and then, as did the rest of us.
I'll tell you something for nothing though, they looked after her like gold after that lol.
That is the problem with the NHS now in a nutshell, I would guess for every extra pound given to the NHS 90p is spent justifying why they need it
I see no problem with the rich who can afford it paying for their treatment so that the poor can get it for free
Te biggest problem with free NHS treatment for all is that it benefits the rich far more than it does the poor
That's a beautiful story trebs. I might even take it back to HK one day and make a film out of if you don't want to.
Your mum has raised you boys up well
But they pay their taxes (well some of them
) so they are equally entitled to it.I worry about what you propose bcos the next step would be for tax rebates (more loopholes) for the rich not to contribute. That's the thin end of the wedge for me, in that it will eventually lead to less funding, a two tier system, and then medical insurance private healthcare for those who aren't rich enough to pay for it outright.
But they pay their taxes (well some of them
I worry about what you propose bcos the next step would be for tax rebates (more loopholes) for the rich not to contribute. That's the thin end of the wedge for me, in that it will eventually lead to less funding, a two tier system, and then medical insurance private healthcare for those who aren't rich enough to pay for it outright.
The rich can get their treatment from the private sector now anyway but how much of that goes back into the NHS, not much I would think
The problem with our taxation system is that the ones who should be paying the most hire lawyers not accountants to avoid paying tax
There was a report a few years ago looking at people who come here for treatment and never pay a penny for the treatment or a penny in contributions to the NHS another massive loophole in free treatment for all
To present the paperwork to our Tax Offices who are now only capable of of taxing the average worker because the experiences ones have taken early retirement
Every single thing you post is bollocks but we all just ignore it most of the time
Is there any vague evidence for your “guess” or have you read it in The Express? I like you Dug but you get duped by this stuff more than my Nan.