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loads of folk want to slate the unions
but if it wasn’t for them, we’d still be working 60hr weeks with no sick pay, no holidays and no rights if your employer wanted to get rid
Strikes
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This
loads of folk want to slate the unions
but if it wasn’t for them, we’d still be working 60hr weeks with no sick pay, no holidays and no rights if your employer wanted to get rid
Delayed pay rises are annoying, as it can be 6months. I’d rather just get my payrise from the start to have my extra money.Yeh i dont see your problem then
That all sounds good to me if I work for a company
My pay rise this year just about covered the NI increase
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you’re alright mate, the mines have closed in Cornwall and you have one train a day so won’t see a difference
People keep saying this, but it's only really the train drivers who earn big money, and they're mostly members of Aslef not the RMT.
True story for you; the beginning of the first lock-down, the night Boris made his "You must stay indoors" announcement, I was on the platform at Finsbury Park overground. I got chatting to a chap in a smart suit who was trying to get home to Potters Bar; he told me he was an MP, don't remember his name. Tory as it turned out, but nice enough bloke to talk to. I remember him saying the problems would come after Covid, when the decision had to be made about who pays for it all. At the time I thought, it won't be you pal, it'll be muggins here on PAYE, the ordinary working man. Two years later, here I am having worked all through both lockdowns, now faced with rampant inflation and a two year pay freeze. So 'how about bollocks?', is my message to the government when they want cut jobs and pay, and reduce pensions.
Good point.
I disagree with this strike mainly as the whole country is under the cosh and all it will do will trigger other unions. We might as well all down tools and just make things considerably worse
I just watched the commons chat **** about it, usual back and forth blah blah hence the thread.
People definitely need unions from what I can see and you talking sick pay and that just makes me think that even more.
When was the last time the UK had a general strike? How did that go?
Interesting they're talking about doctors potentially striking. GP's have essentially been on strike since March 2020 iirc.
I disagree with all strikes tbh, they achieve little in the long term. However, I do think there is a place for unions and they have done more good for the working classes than bad. When I started work it was the car industry unions that set the tone for wage increases.
Don’t get me wrong, unions had their time, and that time has been and gone.
I disagree. We only get to hear about the unions at times like these when it’s not pleasant. They still have a major part to play in the success of most large organisations. Recently, equal pay, diversity, workplace respect and ethics are largely down to them.
Speaking of.
Had to call mine last week for an appointment and was offered a face to face one.
1st since covid.
Thats actually a really good read ^^
Can see lots of history repeating.
Seen some figures at £33,000 for ticket staff, that can't be right though? Most people doing that kind of job are on about £10,000 less.
I think the £33,000 figure is a mean for the industry, but that would include shift allowances, increases for higher grades, skills allowances etc. Some grades like shunters earn a lot more, but that's mostly night work. Others, like customer facing platform staff, earn a lot less in basic, plus take loads of abuse when the service is ****.
It's not all about money btw. Network Rail have 2,000 unfilled jobs, that's all safety critical jobs which the govt won't allow them to recruit against. That puts the service, and lives, at risk.
I used to be in a union. Say what you like about them, they know their stuff.