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I am not at all happy about the planned changes, I have a perfect seat on the half way line in the west upper.
I cannot imagine that half way line seats will be available elsewhere and am initially highly tempted to withdraw my support.
This has nothing to do with the team, but this regime has now managed to brass off someone who first went to City Reserves at the age of 4 with his Dad in 1949 and I must add, was hitherto pretty much pro-Allam, for which some will say, 'serves you right'.
 
It was suggested that they should not move people out of the West Upper until there is an agreement that the away fans can be moved there, but two reasons were put forward for not doing so.

Firstly, that if we don't get promoted and crowds are under 20k it won't be opened (obviously we should be pricing the ground to fill it, rather than shutting it, but that was what was put forward).

Secondly, that there's going to be massive upheaval implementing the membership scheme ahead of next season and they want it all sorted in one go. (this one I have some sympathy with, the last thing we need is going through all this again ahead of 2017-18 season).

Like I said I have to think things through before deciding whether to try and do something about it.

The membership system could still be implemented without any major upheaval. If you get a plastic card which allows tickets to be uploaded then its doesn't matter what the cost of the ticket is. The upper west could be given seats for next season whilst the consultation takes place. Moving to a free seat should be easier under the new system.

I don't see how closing the Upper West saves money. At least 1700 pay for the most expensive seats. I suspect they need less stewards then other areas of the ground. I can't see any other associated costs. So how does it save money closing it?
 
Like I said I have to think things through before deciding whether to try and do something about it.

The membership system could still be implemented without any major upheaval. If you get a plastic card which allows tickets to be uploaded then its doesn't matter what the cost of the ticket is. The upper west could be given seats for next season whilst the consultation takes place. Moving to a free seat should be easier under the new system.

I don't see how closing the Upper West saves money. At least 1700 pay for the most expensive seats. I suspect they need less stewards then other areas of the ground. I can't see any other associated costs. So how does it save money closing it?

If you have a facility that can seat 4,000 people with food, drink and stewarding, it obviously costs a fair bit to open it.
 
I am not at all happy about the planned changes, I have a perfect seat on the half way line in the west upper.
I cannot imagine that half way line seats will be available elsewhere and am initially highly tempted to withdraw my support.
This has nothing to do with the team, but this regime has now managed to brass off someone who first went to City Reserves at the age of 4 with his Dad in 1949 and I must add, was hitherto pretty much pro-Allam, for which some will say, 'serves you right'.

I recall you as someone who was not only 'pro-Allam' but a person who was scornful and damning of anyone protesting the name change. This being the case, allow me to be the first to say to you, and others of your ilk to be displaced, SERVES YOU RIGHT!
 
I recall you as someone who was not only 'pro-Allam' but a person who was scornful and damning of anyone protesting the name change. This being the case, allow me to be the first to say to you, and others of your ilk to be displaced, SERVES YOU RIGHT!

You've obviously got the wrong poster, you might want to delete this.

Edit - Either that, or I have. :emoticon-0112-wonde
 
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If we get promoted we'll need all the ground and it will obviously be open all the time, the costs become academic, it's only if we don't get promoted that it's an issue.

There is nothing to stop the club offering the current pass holders the option to stay in their current seat under the new membership system then. Once the away fans are moved in they can then move out.
 
See previous post.

Just because they don't want to do it doesn't mean they can't. I'll make sure my English is grammatically correct from now on.

If we get promoted to the Premier League the club, if it wanted, could, under the new membership scheme, allocate the same seats to the current upper west pass holders until such time as the away fans are moved from the north east corner to the upper west. A price zone, or zones, could be allocated to the upper west and that amounted deducted until such time as they moved into the cheaper seats. The tickets for their current seats would be uploaded onto the membership card until the move. Their new seats would then be uploaded. In the meantime those that wanted to move could do so.
 
I am not at all happy about the planned changes, I have a perfect seat on the half way line in the west upper.
I cannot imagine that half way line seats will be available elsewhere and am initially highly tempted to withdraw my support.
This has nothing to do with the team, but this regime has now managed to brass off someone who first went to City Reserves at the age of 4 with his Dad in 1949 and I must add, was hitherto pretty much pro-Allam, for which some will say, 'serves you right'.

Reap what you sow ****y bollocks.

**** off. Don't come back.

TTFE.
 
Just because they don't want to do it doesn't mean they can't. I'll make sure my English is grammatically correct from now on.

If we get promoted to the Premier League the club, if it wanted, could, under the new membership scheme, allocate the same seats to the current upper west pass holders until such time as the away fans are moved from the north east corner to the upper west. A price zone, or zones, could be allocated to the upper west and that amounted deducted until such time as they moved into the cheaper seats. The tickets for their current seats would be uploaded onto the membership card until the move. Their new seats would then be uploaded. In the meantime those that wanted to move could do so.

Yes, but if it's all but guaranteed that season tickets will become unavailable in the upper west for whatever reason (away fans, relegation etc) then now is the time to move them. If they stay for a season, chances of finding adequate space for everyone are slim. Yes there will be plenty of seats around the ground but how many spaces to fit the larger groups of 4 or 5+.

It's not ideal but I do see the logic behind this. That said, if tickets weren't such a ****ing stupid price there'd be no reason to shut the upper west anyway.
 
Yes, but if it's all but guaranteed that season tickets will become unavailable in the upper west for whatever reason (away fans, relegation etc) then now is the time to move them. If they stay for a season, chances of finding adequate space for everyone are slim. Yes there will be plenty of seats around the ground but how many spaces to fit the larger groups of 4 or 5+.

It's not ideal but I do see the logic behind this. That said, if tickets weren't such a ****ing stupid price there'd be no reason to shut the upper west anyway.

This.
 
You've obviously got the wrong poster, you might want to delete this.

Edit - Either that, or I have. :emoticon-0112-wonde

Sorry Lammie, there'll be no delete from me, 2008 isn't who I thought he was but, his posting history shows him as a huge Allam apologist - ''what goes around comes around'' springs to mind.
 
At least West Upper are getting evicted in time for folks to organise to sit near each other elsewhere.

A privilege not afforded to E1-E3.

And how are they going to do that when the majority of seats will already have been taken?

At least the E1-E3 move was to empty blocks.

I'm not saying ones worse than the other, both are utterly pointless.
 
Yes, but if it's all but guaranteed that season tickets will become unavailable in the upper west for whatever reason (away fans, relegation etc) then now is the time to move them. If they stay for a season, chances of finding adequate space for everyone are slim. Yes there will be plenty of seats around the ground but how many spaces to fit the larger groups of 4 or 5+.

I imagine it will all be largely academic, of the 1,700 pass holders in the Upper West I'd be surprised if even half of them renewed under the new system.

Is it more cost effective to open a 5,000 capacity stand for 1,700 paying customers, or to close the stand and lose 1,700 paying customers?

I imagine the Allams haven't even considered the second option, all calculations will have been done assuming everyone is willing to move.