Steve Lansdown
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It’s all well and good buying young players, improving and selling on, but to be successful with that model, you have to use the proceeds to buy better players, not rinse and recycle or else you just stay as you are, which is what we’ve done.
SL is wedded to this model, and he’s too set in his ways and arrogant to realise it. We can still do it under his leadership, but only if he’s self aware enough to realise it’s a failed model and change it. He also needs to get rid of his son and BT and hire ‘best in class’ football people instead.
SL is wedded to this model, and he’s too set in his ways and arrogant to realise it. We can still do it under his leadership, but only if he’s self aware enough to realise it’s a failed model and change it. He also needs to get rid of his son and BT and hire ‘best in class’ football people instead.
Some of the truest comments I have ever heard on this site Ashton about our supposed leader who, in fact, is probably the sole reason we fail to impress every time we make plans to improve our lot. Stubborness is a trait that is admirable in certain circumstances but not when it means we have to watch the continuing mire without any redemption coming down the line.
Some of the truest comments I have ever heard on this site Ashton about our supposed leader who, in fact, is probably the sole reason we fail to impress every time we make plans to improve our lot. Stubborness is a trait that is admirable in certain circumstances but not when it means we have to watch the continuing mire without any redemption coming down the line.
After 30 years of his stewardship I would think that it's very unlikely that he will change his ways now.
I suspect, like most people on here, we'd all like to see a new owner come in with a true vision for the club, and knows how to achieve it, and not continually selling our best assets, especially to our rivals in the same division !
The reality is that every season that passes makes it more and more unlikely we'll ever reach the Premiership, let alone stay there, without a massive change to our approach and the personnel we employ.
I'm also wary of who might buy the club from SL, when you look at the disasters that others have faced under foreign ownership when the culture and history of clubs is ignored and the end result is often relative obscurity, often with massive debts.
It's a fine line between where we are now, and where we could end up whichever way it goes.
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We did sort of do that for a while had quite a young group of players [ LM SEASON] but all fell apart as the youngsters were cast aside because we were riding high and just kept that core of about 8 Bell is back but YU, AM & ZAK have gone!!!
SA seems to be improving........Twine ... Randel ...Pring ..... McC..... etc
I see the sports pages are generally giving us a total fail rating, but in defence they did comment about our late entry into the pool. Does anybody have the final breakdown on the finces involved as the club are usually reluctant to name the price, and seeing as Semenyo moved along during this same time frame did we make or lose money, including his sell-on fee?
It goes back further than that John, it’s been the model for years. Bournemouth and Brentford are examples and of selling and replacing with quality not just punts.,
It goes back further than that John, it’s been the model for years. Bournemouth and Brentford are examples and of selling and replacing with quality not just punts.,
....and so the question has to be why is Lansdown so set in his ways when other smaller teams have proven that it is possible evn when you are in a small catchment are? The point about it being our model for years hits home especially when you look at where some of the teams were say 30 years ago. A lot of the teams of a supposed lower level were 3rd and 4th division back in the day and now they are making us look like a lame duck out of water and beating us to the punch on every level you care to mention. Some of those teams that will be mentioned also took a lot of our top players, who thrived at another club, and as always we failed totally to replace them with anybody close to the same level and some that were awful. When long-term players refuse to sign a new contract it is either down to money of just being totally fed up with the apathy that surrounds Bristol City and rightly some wanted a better atmosphere in which to play. The game at the weekend will show whether or not we have done better in the transfer window this time out, but based on our previous in this department I might suggest NOT.
We have become an embarassment to ourselves and the boss wants to blame anyone but himself which is disgraceful.
....and so the question has to be why is Lansdown so set in his ways when other smaller teams have proven that it is possible evn when you are in a small catchment are? The point about it being our model for years hits home especially when you look at where some of the teams were say 30 years ago. A lot of the teams of a supposed lower level were 3rd and 4th division back in the day and now they are making us look like a lame duck out of water and beating us to the punch on every level you care to mention. Some of those teams that will be mentioned also took a lot of our top players, who thrived at another club, and as always we failed totally to replace them with anybody close to the same level and some that were awful. When long-term players refuse to sign a new contract it is either down to money of just being totally fed up with the apathy that surrounds Bristol City and rightly some wanted a better atmosphere in which to play. The game at the weekend will show whether or not we have done better in the transfer window this time out, but based on our previous in this department I might suggest NOT.
We have become an embarassment to ourselves and the boss wants to blame anyone but himself which is disgraceful.
Ever since SL started his business [whiteladies rd Ithink ] he has had and fast rules. He is a billionaire so it works. One of my first policies was with him [ co ]. the old adage of "if it aint broke dont try and fix it" more often than not works.
since FFP and the PREM 50 plus teams have featured at the top table. There is 20 there now so where are the other 30? More importantly how many are still in the top 92!!!!! and how many are still in business [ most, but 1 or 2 ceased to exist]
when you look at the contracts currently in place [ list publised today ] we basically have the core over the next 2 seasons of a above average team.
BIGGEST problem will goalie... should VITEK DECIDE he would like to be part of our journey and MU sell him we need to have him on a fairly long contract, .and basically unless someone comes up through academy always have him on at least [1] / 2 years +1.
1 player I wouldnt like to leave unless he wanted to would be YU.
some of the other money making ideas, reason why he has bought up the space [ or most of it ] to build not yet taken place.
SL has made £billions in finance - and he’s obviously brilliant at what he does in that field.
However, running a football club is different.
A successful accountant can’t necessarily buy a restaurant, tell the chefs how and what to cook, restrict their wages - and expect to obtain Michelin stars . Of course it MIGHT work, but it’s unlikely.
If you make rules and stick with them, you might be ‘safe’, but you close your mind to opportunities because you are not flexible and agile enough to seize them.
However, running a football club is different.
A successful accountant can’t necessarily buy a restaurant, tell the chefs how and what to cook, restrict their wages - and expect to obtain Michelin stars . Of course it MIGHT work, but it’s unlikely.
If you make rules and stick with them, you might be ‘safe’, but you close your mind to opportunities because you are not flexible and agile enough to seize them.
I'd add stubborn and very cautious to that.
At the end of the day it's his money.
But when he talks about building for success and such like I think most people know he's not really serious about it. it's just hot air.