Stadium expansion.
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We will wait for the end of time for the liberty to be extended, the police will have none of it so there goes the dream there.......There is a huge difference between buying a £10m player than investing £80m - £100m in a stadium..
...The club has enough money in the bank to invest in bricks and mortar that would easily pay for itself in a short time. your not spending your investing for the future....
...The club has enough money in the bank to invest in bricks and mortar that would easily pay for itself in a short time. your not spending your investing for the future....
They could be housed under the stands. Can see it now 'the Poundstretcher end' opposite the Cash Generator stand.
The council cant wait to off load the liberty to us, They are trying their hardest and should the board accept then we will be ****ed from here on in.....Wait , wait and then wait some more , The Council will give in to the Clubs offer of buying it at some point
That would be absolutely fantastic, keep dreaming Project, I love it
....and if we ever play Cardiff again, their submissive fans can swim direct to the game.
Build it, they will come
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permission has always been on the cards but there are many against it for it ever take place. A gantry for the media is the only expansion we will ever see......The council are so keen for us to buy and do you know why.........ill tell you why its because if we were to buy the liberty all the objections will have to be dealt by the club....IE. New road is needed.....swans pay.....new sufficient parking facilities to not only cover the attendance today but any extension that we want...swans pay. Compensation to all the stores if matches disrupt their takings and you can go on and on with objections, so whether the council accept a plan for extension then it will always be blocked As it stands the police have a big say and they are against it until the traffic and parking is sorted out. ...This is why it will be safer to Invest in a new purpose built stadium and not wast money in trying to expand the liberty that will be money down the drain...
permission has always been on the cards but there are many against it for it ever take place. A gantry for the media is the only expansion we will ever see......The council are so keen for us to buy and do you know why.........ill tell you why its because if we were to buy the liberty all the objections will have to be dealt by the club....IE. New road is needed.....swans pay.....new sufficient parking facilities to not only cover the attendance today but any extension that we want...swans pay. Compensation to all the stores if matches disrupt their takings and you can go on and on with objections, so whether the council accept a plan for extension then it will always be blocked As it stands the police have a big say and they are against it until the traffic and parking is sorted out. ...This is why it will be safer to Invest in a new purpose built stadium and not wast money in trying to expand the liberty that will be money down the drain...
I don't like the idea of expanding the Liberty either Dai, and I think the surrounding businesses are dead against it on the premise that expansion of the Liberty has to include new parking facilities, so I believe. The businesses don't want to allocate any space for parking for the Liberty. Their other objection is that expanding the Liberty would take up a lot of space so restrict any expansions other businesses may want in the future. For PR purposes, none would admit to that but most if not all, of the surrounding businesses have already objected to the expansion in some form or another, hence it not gong ahead.
If we want to build though Dai, the problem remains the same.......where? We may have to look outside of Swansea
Could be a decent option though Trunds but I think parking would be a problem wherever we went. Land is too expensive to be purchased for parking facilities which would only be utilised to the max on home game days, and would have to be free or a minimal charge involved.
If we want to build though Dai, the problem remains the same.......where? We may have to look outside of Swansea
Could be a decent option though Trunds but I think parking would be a problem wherever we went. Land is too expensive to be purchased for parking facilities which would only be utilised to the max on home game days, and would have to be free or a minimal charge involved.
It should have been built at the felindre site in the beginning when we had the chance but nobody thought we would be this successful as the liberty was originally planned for 25K + but was deemed to be to big for a lower league club and was reduced by 5k......I wish we had had a crystal ball in them days...
Felindre is out, they are building an industrial estate there on land that Swansea council own, the rest of the land in that vicinity is owned by the Welsh government, they will not sell to the club for one very good reason we already have a stadium that can be expanded to suit our needs.
And there is another couple of huge hurdles to consider that people are simply overlooking, the first is that we have a lease that has another 40 years to run, it will probably cost us millions to break. Swansea Council will have the say on planning permission wherever we would go, what do you think they will say ?
Sorry but we are staying put, the stadium will be expanded, and we will buy it. Obviously the parking issues need to be sorted, building a multi storey on the park and ride will help a hell of a lot.
And there is another couple of huge hurdles to consider that people are simply overlooking, the first is that we have a lease that has another 40 years to run, it will probably cost us millions to break. Swansea Council will have the say on planning permission wherever we would go, what do you think they will say ?
Sorry but we are staying put, the stadium will be expanded, and we will buy it. Obviously the parking issues need to be sorted, building a multi storey on the park and ride will help a hell of a lot.
Never in a million years. we would have built it 4 years ago if we could and we are no closer now than 4 years ago....
Dai what you suggesting will not happen, it will take us upwards of 10 years to build another stadium, we don't have anywhere to build it. And as I have said we have not the small matter of a lease that will probably cost several million to break. To put it frankly mate, you are being fanciful with your dreams. And the club will not be looking at anywhere else to vacate to.
you dont know that or what the club will do, you can only go on why the club is in a quandary and are still waiting after 4 years going into our 5th season and still no closer. that you can see with your own eyes, If it could be done we would be using it by now. The club will have to face facts soon on whether we just carry on and hope for the best or we start looking for a new site and invest our money in that. either way it wont come cheap
Of course I know it, when you sign a lease it comes with penalties if you break it, we are in there for a further 40 years, it will cost probably most of the cost stadium to break it. We are being offered the stadium at a good price probably over the course of 5 years or more. And we have the planning permission to build the expansion of the Liberty.
Now your vision is just a pipe dream that will never happen in a year of Sunday's , the reason is quite simple, there is no need for it, why spend 3 times as much for something we can have at a discount?
Now your vision is just a pipe dream that will never happen in a year of Sunday's , the reason is quite simple, there is no need for it, why spend 3 times as much for something we can have at a discount?
You are not getting it jager.....We cant expand, we have been trying for years and getting nowhere. The council dont have the money to build new roads and parking facilities and if we have to pay then that will be far more expensive than starting from scratch elsewhere....
Dai - I understand that the club has made an offer for the stadium. That would tend to suggest that the Board's preferred solution is to stay at the Liberty. 
I think you are the one not getting it, you claim to rent out properties, what happens when someone wants out of an AST early? You don't appear to want comprehend the club's legal obligations. You again don't appear to understand that it will cost us millions to get out of this lease.
The problem we've got is the council is looking to sell the liberty stadium, we get first refusal, if we don't buy it will be sold to someone else, this other organisation will be looking at increasing the costs of the club's staying there.
The problem we've got is the council is looking to sell the liberty stadium, we get first refusal, if we don't buy it will be sold to someone else, this other organisation will be looking at increasing the costs of the club's staying there.
Dai honestly words defy me sometimes with you, they sell on the business premises (because that is what it is) with sitting tenants , they in fact would get more money for that. That's what a lot of banks did with their branches, they sold them then leased them back.