Match Day Thread Southampton vs Aston Villa 5-12-2015 (kick off 3pm)

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Tintin said:
He has been playing what's quite clearly technically a holding midfielder in the double pivot in 4-2-3-1 next to Wanyama. He is a DM, can also play CM. Just because he's small doesn't mean he's not one... It's not a coincidence that just from a quick look the likes of transfermarkt, whoscored, goal, football manager, fifa, squawka, fourfourtwo, football oranje, soccerwiki all back me up on this. It's blatantly obvious he's been playing a DM role if you understand tactics and formations. There are different types of DM's. He's still been playing the position.
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He's not a DM. He can play there but it's not his natural role.
 
tomw24 said:
He's not a DM. He can play there but it's not his natural role.
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Yes it is. DM is considered to be his main position. Every DM is considered to be able to also play CM in formations like 4-3-3, 4-1-4-1 or 3-5-2 other than big ball winner types. Clasie can certainly not play AMC and will not be played there.
 
Tintin said:
Yes it is. DM is considered to be his main position. Every DM is considered to be able to also play CM in formations like 4-3-3, 4-1-4-1 or 3-5-2 other than big ball winner types.
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No it isn't. Clasie is not a proper DM. Wanyama is. Clasie gets forward too much to be classed as a true DM.
 
Tintin said:
He has been playing what's quite clearly technically a holding midfielder in the double pivot in 4-2-3-1 next to Wanyama. He is a DM, can also play CM. Just because he's small doesn't mean he's not one... It's not a coincidence that just from a quick look the likes of transfermarkt, whoscored, goal, football manager, fifa, squawka, fourfourtwo, football oranje, soccerwiki all back me up on this. It's blatantly obvious he's been playing a DM role if you understand tactics and formations. There are different types of DM's. He's still been playing the position.

The DM role he plays is a deep lying playmaker that presses when he can and still does his best to win the ball back. Wanyama is a physical ball winner type that's great in the air.
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Yeah, he's a Harry Reed style hassling DM.
 
tomw24 said:
No it isn't. Clasie is not a proper DM. Wanyama is. Clasie gets forward too much to be classed as a true DM.
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Every single football site, stats site, fifa, football manager class DM as his main position. I don't need them to tell me that either. He's only played DM for us. There are different types of DM's. It's the position he's usually played throughout his career along with CM, that makes him a DM that can also play CM. You're basically saying he isn't a proper anything otherwise.
 
Tintin said:
Every single football site, stats site, fifa, football manager class DM as his main position. I don't need them to tell me that either. He's only played DM for us. There are different types of DM's. It's the position he's usually played throughout his career along with CM, that makes him a DM that can also play CM. You're basically saying he isn't a proper anything otherwise.
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He's a CM. Simple as that. He loves to get forward as the video above shows.
 
So, 6 good chances in 19 minutes (according to 5Live)... maybe they should train with smaller, shorter goals because it sounds as though they're only just missing.
 
tomw24 said:
Yeah, Reed's very likely to do any of this:
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All players aren't the same. Different DM's have different strengths and weaknesses. What part of that can't you understand? You are basically disagreeing with all the football sites and stats site out there. Fifa and football manager. Apparently they know nothing about football! You're wrong.If you don't think he's been playing DM you're clueless. Not arguing further. You don't know what you're talking about. I have every football site, stats site etc backing me up. I don't need the back up either, I know for a fact Clasie's main position is DM. I'm watching the game now.
 
Tintin said:
All players aren't the same. Different DM's have different strengths and weaknesses. What part of that can't you understand? You are basically disagreeing with all the football sites and stats site out there. Fifa and football manager. Apparently they know nothing about football! You're wrong.If you don't think he's been playing DM you're clueless.
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He's been playing DM but he's not a true DM because he gets forward a lot. When he gets more confidence in the PL you will see this. And I don't give a flying **** what computer games think.
 
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