Yup good lads for making themselfs look well and truly stupid and wasting people's hard earned money that they took knowing full well they had lied..... Good lads
Nah, you won't convince me that the only reason they conceded the first part was to save time. They conceded because they knew they hadn't handled the sackings appropriately. What point have I missed?
I cannot believe this thread rumbles on. Of all the things we can be a tad miffed with the Allams, and some think the lost cause of two groundsmen should be added to the list.
What's it to you? The way the club handles everything is appalling, literally everything. The fact the allams leave you only a 'tad miffed' speaks volumes.
I wasn't even talking about their sacking, nor making a judgement on what was right or wrong, so how could I have missed the point numbnuts? My whole point was Ehab is talking complete bollocks when he says the only reason he conceded the first part was to spare his staff stress. That is obviously complete arse.
You have no idea. This episode should not even be a footnote to the list of wrongdoings to lay on the Allams. I do hope your hard earned was not deposited in the crowd funding appeal. Financial loss can cloud ones judgement.
No matter what you think of the Allams and I hat them ... these guys knowingly lied to raise money of very kind hearted people I'm sorry but that's just wrong and they should be called out for it
I never said they shouldn't be called out for it. I'm not sure what point you're arguing against but it's nothing to do with what I said.
My mistake, sorry. They were sacked for doing something in company time. Though it could be argued, attending employment tribunals forms part of the duties of senior managers, the thought Ehab would be paying them to sit for two days in a tribunal waiting room, on pay, probably brought about a cold sweat.
I've got no doubt that a) what they were doing was a sackable offence and b) they have lied about it. That can't be argued against. The only points im making is: a) The allams could have handled this with a conversation and saved all this trouble and b) they royally ****ed up the sacking procedure and then c) are now claiming they only admitted they cocked it up to look after their staff i.e. 'we didn't really cock it up' which is laughable.
They only conceded at the very last moment, but obviously it was just to protect the interests of their dearly valued workforce. Who they didn't mind putting through the stress of a tribunal until they'd waited as long as possible in the hope that the groundsmen wouldn't find the money required to fight the case. Only when they realised that the groundsmen had been able to afford top representation, despite not making nearly enough from the crowdfunding, did they make that decision. Coincidence though of course. It was to protect their employees from stress.
top representation that was a compete waste of money that proven liers conned people out of knowing full well they had lied!!.... Anyone defending these 2 after the full facts are now in the open is quite honestly laughable
Where are the full facts? Ehab's statement? Sure. It wasn't a waste of money if it scared Ehab into accepting what he'd done rather than trying to fight it. Make no mistake, he'll have been very reluctant to do that and if he thought he could win he'd have tried.
I've never heard anybody say Hull is a utopia , here or anywhere else , although when people actually visit many are surprised in a positive way
Nobody comes out of this sorry affair with any credit but the Allams, as supposed pillars of the business and wider community, have behaved with breathtaking arrogance and heavy-handedness. More shame on them.
