What I'm struggling with is Im reading comments on other forums and some are genuinely shocked. i can't believe there are or were still Leeds fans who thought Bates wasn't too bad and maybe some stories were exaggerated. Any of those looking in, get our heads out of the sand lads, he damn nearly ****ed us completely and we were warned often enough. Even the examination of our accounts a year before he sold, conducted on behalf of LUST, clearly showing the various holes and shortfalls, was ridiculed by some and classed as scaremongering.