Short Out

[Brian Storm]

I find this whoYOule thread - including the title - positively incomprehensible. I can't believe that some people are actually asking for "football men" to invade the business and administration wing of this club. Let's be frank, "football men" are so f**king thick that they can't even get their own jobs right. They get millions thrown at their pipe-dreams by the excellent Ellis Short, administered by the excellent Margaret Byrne, etc. and don't even know what football players to waste it on. That's how f**king thick "football men" are! I want the next manager of this club to be a young, ambitious Wall Street man who knows nothing about football, but sure as hell knows how to deal with the ****s at this club. I didn't see a single member of the Board on that field this season. I saw a bunch of "football ****s" who couldn't win a game in eight, bought and picked by "football ****s" ruining this club. Let's forget "football men" - they're the dozy pr*cks who have let us all down for the last ten years, nobody else.

I don't mean Ex Players I mean a football man in the sense of an interest in football. Some natural understanding of the game as a well as business. Ellis doesn't give a **** about football. Owning is one thing Being chairman of the board when they don't have a clue about the sport is another.

I bet the Chairman of the majority of football clubs have football or sporting background whether it be professionally or sheer passion of for the game. Ellis has neither.

 

[Billy Death]

HOW!!!???

I like her eyes & her thruppeny bits.

 

[Disco down under]

I like her eyes & her thruppeny bits.

 

[grandpops]

I find this whole thread - including the title - positively incomprehensible. I can't believe that some people are actually asking for "football men" to invade the business and administration wing of this club. Let's be frank, "football men" are so f**king thick that they can't even get their own jobs right. They get millions thrown at their pipe-dreams by the excellent Ellis Short, administered by the excellent Margaret Byrne, etc. and don't even know what football players to waste it on. That's how f**king thick "football men" are! I want the next manager of this club to be a young, ambitious Wall Street man who knows nothing about football, but sure as hell knows how to deal with the ****s at this club. I didn't see a single member of the Board on that field this season. I saw a bunch of "football ****s" who couldn't win a game in eight, bought and picked by "football ****s" ruining this club. Let's forget "football men" - they're the dozy pr*cks who have let us all down for the last ten years, nobody else.

Yet the board have handed out contracts to those same football ****s who have failed miserably? Doesn`t make sense mate.

Short, by his own admission, knows nothing about football yet he`s surrounded himself with people who know less than he does.
It`s a total debacle.

He needs to boot the board not just out of the boardroom but out of the club.

He needs to bring in
a). Somebody who knows about football.
b). Somebody who knows how to run a football club.
c). A CEO who knows about both.

Until he does, this club will remain a complete shambles.

(imo)

 

[The Relic]

Advocaat was a 12 month appointment mate. There was nothing long term about him, just a temporary lift to get us out of another slump.

A 12 month appointment to get us out of a 10 year bunch of "football men's" sh*t?

 

[The Relic]

Yet the board have handed out contracts to those same football ****s who have failed miserably? Doesn`t make sense mate.

Short, by his own admission, knows nothing about football yet he`s surrounded himself with people who know less than he does.
It`s a total debacle.

He needs to boot the board not just out of the boardroom but out of the club.

He needs to bring in
a). Somebody who knows about football.
b). Somebody who knows how to run a football club.
c). A CEO who knows about both.

Until he does, this club will remain a complete shambles.

(imo)

The "football sh*ts handed out contracts, financed by the excellent Ellis Short, to buddy, buddy "football sh*ts" - it makes perfect sense, mate.

 

[Disco down under]

A 12 month appointment to get us out of a 10 year bunch of "football men's" sh*t?

Bear in mind the board have control over what the football men do. They shouldn't just be letting them run wild and doing whatever they want to send the club down.

I'm not saying Short is the problem but it's clear there's no guidance from the top. Gill, Kenyon, Jenkins, Cortese so on and so forth. That's the sort of person you need.

And it's not the sort of person we've got.

 

[The Relic]

Bear in mind the board have control over what the football men do. They shouldn't just be letting them run wild and doing whatever they want to send the club down.

I'm not saying Short is the problem but it's clear there's no guidance from the top. Gill, Kenyon, Jenkins, Cortese so on and so forth. That's the sort of person you need.

And it's not the sort of person we've got.

£vidence?

 

[Rick O'Shea]

Fan buy out? I found a fiver in my winter coat yesterday, after not wearing it since march.

 

[Disco down under]

£vidence?

The club as it is. As it has been. Our transfer dealings, our backroom appointments. Our style of play, the results on the pitch. The lack of authority, the player revolts. The players sold and coming good, the players turning **** once we get them.

I don't think the board are solely to blame but they are responsible for the running of the club and I don't know that anyone would say we are a well run club.

 

[Vincemac]

Fan buy out? I found a fiver in my winter coat yesterday, after not wearing it since march.

You have a winter coat.? I wear mine all year round.

 

[Rick O'Shea]

You have a winter coat.? I wear mine all year round.

Hard as nails me man.

 

[The Relic]

Yet the board have handed out contracts to those same football ****s who have failed miserably? Doesn`t make sense mate.

Short, by his own admission, knows nothing about football yet he`s surrounded himself with people who know less than he does.
It`s a total debacle.

He needs to boot the board not just out of the boardroom but out of the club.

He needs to bring in
a). Somebody who knows about football.
b). Somebody who knows how to run a football club.
c). A CEO who knows about both.

Until he does, this club will remain a complete shambles.

(imo)

Like Bruce, O''Neil et al? I totally agree. Surely to god we've seen the last of those sh*ts. So-called "football men" are totally discredited.

 

[Nathan Brazil]

The board are working with a vision mate and with no long term goals. I don't think we need an ex player on the board but I do think we need someone proven within football.

Agree 100%

Someone with a brain and knowledge of football needs to be in the hierarchy of the club.
More than one would be nice.

 

[Brian Storm]

The board are working with a vision mate and with no long term goals. I don't think we need an ex player on the board but I do think we need someone proven within football.

That's exactly what I meant by football man. Somebody who knows the game. I didn't mention ex players in the OP, don't know why my thread has turned into a big ho ha about ex players.

 

[Nostalgic]

Football is sometimes driven by events that turn out bizarrely good or bad. Take our most successful EPL club ManU who were struggling just like the rest with disenchanted fans who wanted chairman Martin Edwards out and Ferguson sacked. Up steps Michael Knighton (he is on wiki if you are interested) to buy the club with money from a sound business plan to raise funds. The deal eventually fell through as backing was withdrawn from Knighton, but a few years later, based on his plan, they floated on the stock exchange and their finances exploded just in time for a Sky deal as well and their future is well known, but it is based on that one event made business men aware of football club ownership.

The moral from that event was that if you bought a players who failed you just get rid and replaced him with another one.

Since then we have had Jack Walker and others come in to finance clubs massively, but that was in the early days when most footballers were British with the occasional foreigner thrown. The more recent owners have had to cope with the Bosman rule, player astro wages and possibly in our case, geographical locations.

Those of us in our position can just get by on the leavings of the richer clubs as what we lay out for players matches our status, PSG, Bayern, ManU Real etc are guaranteed to be always at the top just by wealth alone.