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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Brian Storm, Oct 4, 2015.

  1. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    I don't mean Ex Players I mean a football man in the sense of an interest in football. Some natural understanding of the game as a well as business. Ellis doesn't give a **** about football. Owning is one thing Being chairman of the board when they don't have a clue about the sport is another.

    I bet the Chairman of the majority of football clubs have football or sporting background whether it be professionally or sheer passion of for the game. Ellis has neither.
     
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  2. Billy Death

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    I like her eyes & her thruppeny bits. <ok>
     
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  3. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    :eek::confused:<yikes><wah>:huh::shocked::emoticon-0132-envy::emoticon-0121-angry:emoticon-0175-drunk

    :emoticon-0145-shake
     
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  4. grandpops

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    Yet the board have handed out contracts to those same football ****s who have failed miserably? Doesn`t make sense mate.

    Short, by his own admission, knows nothing about football yet he`s surrounded himself with people who know less than he does.
    It`s a total debacle.

    He needs to boot the board not just out of the boardroom but out of the club.

    He needs to bring in
    a). Somebody who knows about football.
    b). Somebody who knows how to run a football club.
    c). A CEO who knows about both.

    Until he does, this club will remain a complete shambles.

    (imo)
     
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  5. The Relic

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    A 12 month appointment to get us out of a 10 year bunch of "football men's" sh*t?
     
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  6. The Relic

    The Relic Well-Known Member

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    The "football sh*ts handed out contracts, financed by the excellent Ellis Short, to buddy, buddy "football sh*ts" - it makes perfect sense, mate.
     
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  7. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Bear in mind the board have control over what the football men do. They shouldn't just be letting them run wild and doing whatever they want to send the club down.

    I'm not saying Short is the problem but it's clear there's no guidance from the top. Gill, Kenyon, Jenkins, Cortese so on and so forth. That's the sort of person you need.

    And it's not the sort of person we've got.
     
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  8. The Relic

    The Relic Well-Known Member

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    £vidence?
     
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  9. Rick O'Shea

    Rick O'Shea Well-Known Member

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    Fan buy out? I found a fiver in my winter coat yesterday, after not wearing it since march.
     
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  10. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    The club as it is. As it has been. Our transfer dealings, our backroom appointments. Our style of play, the results on the pitch. The lack of authority, the player revolts. The players sold and coming good, the players turning **** once we get them.

    I don't think the board are solely to blame but they are responsible for the running of the club and I don't know that anyone would say we are a well run club.
     
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  11. Vincemac

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    You have a winter coat.? I wear mine all year round.<bubbly>
     
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  12. Rick O'Shea

    Rick O'Shea Well-Known Member

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    Hard as nails me man.:emoticon-0110-tongu
     
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  13. The Relic

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    Like Bruce, O''Neil et al? I totally agree. Surely to god we've seen the last of those sh*ts. So-called "football men" are totally discredited.
     
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    Agree 100%

    Someone with a brain and knowledge of football needs to be in the hierarchy of the club.
    More than one would be nice.
     
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  15. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    That's exactly what I meant by football man. Somebody who knows the game. I didn't mention ex players in the OP, don't know why my thread has turned into a big ho ha about ex players.
     
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  16. Nostalgic

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    Football is sometimes driven by events that turn out bizarrely good or bad. Take our most successful EPL club ManU who were struggling just like the rest with disenchanted fans who wanted chairman Martin Edwards out and Ferguson sacked. Up steps Michael Knighton (he is on wiki if you are interested) to buy the club with money from a sound business plan to raise funds. The deal eventually fell through as backing was withdrawn from Knighton, but a few years later, based on his plan, they floated on the stock exchange and their finances exploded just in time for a Sky deal as well and their future is well known, but it is based on that one event made business men aware of football club ownership.

    The moral from that event was that if you bought a players who failed you just get rid and replaced him with another one.

    Since then we have had Jack Walker and others come in to finance clubs massively, but that was in the early days when most footballers were British with the occasional foreigner thrown. The more recent owners have had to cope with the Bosman rule, player astro wages and possibly in our case, geographical locations.

    Those of us in our position can just get by on the leavings of the richer clubs as what we lay out for players matches our status, PSG, Bayern, ManU Real etc are guaranteed to be always at the top just by wealth alone.
     
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