Shane Long

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petersaxton said:
I agree that the above could be possible but Bent went on loan so it's not like he was committed for years and Bruce seemed to indicate that the wages were the problem with Bendtner rather than anything else. I agree we don't know. I'd be very worried if Long was the only quality striker that was willing to come to us though.
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why would you be worried , we are a small club .. and we can only afford limited wages etc .. to have someone like shane long / tom huddlestone / jake Livermore want to come to us is a MASSIVE step up from a few years ago ..

you need to realise we are not a big fish and enjoy the fact these names are here or flew to leeds to come to hull from and international squad meet and see that we are climbing up the ladder but its a slow thing
 
hullborn said:
Bottom line is..

We've needed a quality striker for the last couple of seasons, even more so now we're in the prem.
Bruce was desperate for one and stated so several times.
The Allams were willing to fund one!
We put all our eggs in one basket with the Long deal, it backfired..


We cant blame WBA for what happend, the blame falls at the feet of Bruce & the Allams for deciding to handle deadline day the way they did. As soon as WBA said "you can have Long once we bring in our targets" we should have moved on and gone for other targets.

Bruce has had an ample amount of time to scout for strikers who would improve our team. He will have a list with all the details, price, wages etc... Once we knew the Long deal wasnt going to be in our own hands we should have bid for the next player and moved on.

This isnt about being ungrateful towards the allams, its amazing that they were willing to fund a potential £6m move for a striker. Whats annoying is that it didnt come off and its no one's fault but their own.
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Of cause we don't know the full story, but I actually feel sorry for Shane Long, and this was cause by WBA not City. To allow a player to fly over, have a medical, and then pull the rug on the deal is no way to do business.

It does however make you think about the Odemwingie situation, this has similar feel to it, has he been given bad press over his turning up at QPR, whereas maybe Clarke is the villain here?
 
John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. said:
Of cause we don't know the full story, but I actually feel sorry for Shane Long, and this was cause by WBA not City. To allow a player to fly over, have a medical, and then pull the rug on the deal is now way to do business.

It does however make you think about the Odemwingie situation, this has similar feel to it, has he been given bad press over his turning up at QPR, whereas maybe Clarke is the villain here?
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exactly my thought .. steve Clarke just being a bit bitter ... again ... it seems to be the same story but not on sky sports news.... something is amiss
 
petersaxton said:
We are talking about football. If you don't sign enough quality players you get relegated. It's as simple as that.
If we get relegated we will be practically giving away our best players like last time and like what has happened to other clubs. This is why many clubs have splashed out on strikers this year.
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We are talking about football - the business of football. It is a very fine balancing act trying to avoid relegation and remaining solvent if it happens.
I'm not sure strikers are the key to survival alone, so are these clubs splashing out on strikers solid in defense ? Not in all cases. City may have the edge on this front in enough cases.

For clubs like Hull City, - the bottom feeder types (at the moment) -the key is to find the balance, assess the risks between sensible spending, salary drains/contract length that tip the scales in favour of survival, but doesn't cripple if the worst case scenario happens (relegation). That's why budgets are set.

The original post of yours I responded to was talking about waiting 'til the last day to get a striker, who's move depended on the other club's recruitment falling into place on the same day.. I'm suggesting that is not what happened. Attempts were made earlier, failed, plan 'b" & 'c' etc were invoked, also failed . All were within the "sensible" constraints of the established budget to prevent financial meltdown if disaster strikes - i.e. relegation. Long became unexpectedly available late in the day, but was already on our preferred striker list with a predetermined value attached. Bruce and the moneymen went for it. Failed. Not for want of tryjng, but still within sensible parameters.

Of course, certain factors are against City to start with. Unfashionable club, little history in the Big League...the list is extensive. I personally admire how they are going about this latest adventure by attempting to manage the potential pitfalls from last time which nearly obliterated them. Reckless abandon is not the way to go.
Bad luck on the striker front. Good(quality) , financially sound business on every other front.
 
petersaxton said:
I just wonder why WBA have changed their model. Is it because they have realised that staying up brings more stability?
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I doubt they have changed their model significantly, tweeked it more like, but the cushion of the increased positional prize money & parachute payments will give them a bit of leeway.
They do have a bit of a twat of a manager, but that's only sour grapes on my part - maybe it's the sign of an astute manager following a model, who knows ?
 
John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. said:
Of cause we don't know the full story, but I actually feel sorry for Shane Long, and this was cause by WBA not City. To allow a player to fly over, have a medical, and then pull the rug on the deal is no way to do business.

It does however make you think about the Odemwingie situation, this has similar feel to it, has he been given bad press over his turning up at QPR, whereas maybe Clarke is the villain here?
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Does rather make you wonder.
 
OK I cant be arsed trawling through 41 pages, has the telegraph article about the Long incident been posted in the thread yet?
 
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