Scum Team Still much Better Than Ours :(

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Man for man in the first team I would say we are better. Collectively though, I am not so sure. You probably have more depth than us and you certainly have a better manager (a dustbin would be an improvement).

Question. When was the last time both NE sides finished top 10 in the top league? I am certain it has never happened in the Premiership era <yikes>
 
QWOP said:
Man for man in the first team I would say we are better. Collectively though, I am not so sure. You probably have more depth than us and you certainly have a better manager (a dustbin would be an improvement).

Question. When was the last time both NE sides finished top 10 in the top league? I am certain it has never happened in the Premiership era <yikes>
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QPR had a decent man for man team last season. They also had a **** manager! (ring any bells!!)
 
sanddancersoftheworlduniteandtakeover said:
They also had a back four that shipped in boat loads of goals (ring any bells!) but you still haven't sorted out that problem.
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Well we have sorted it out. The likes of Yanga Mbiwa and Debuchy should have adapted better to the PL now. These guys are French international players and are no mugs. You can try and play us down as much as you like but we are pretty similar at the moment maybe with us edging it. Although I wonder how well we would do with PDC in charge!
 
Bri And His Funky Phallus said:
I wouldn't take that squad mate. Sunderland's has double the fitness levels and Our squad has been set up for a style that the mags squad wouldn't fit. Newcastle don't even have there own style or set up. The manager is hopeless. Look at Remy, bet he plays on the side of a front 3 and not the frontman of the 3, despite the fact he can play off the last man a 1000 times better than a clueless Cisse ever could. We are one fullback and the right CM from the perfect balance. Think we're more optimistic with good reason. I'd be happier with a bit more depth to the squad but as Newcastle proved last year, they're aren't exactly blessed with strength and depth either.



Edit: Can I just add. Cabaye showed nothing more than second season syndrome last season. Many a class player has graced the premier league, failed, Moved on and showed their class again. Cabaye has done nothing to prove he can cut it in the Premiership. Christ, James McClean had a cracking first season in the Prem so we can discount Cabaye's first season imo. If Newcastle sell him, he should be classed as a failed signing.
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Fitness levels? who the **** goes on about fitness levels when looking into how good a squad is? Di Canio might be a monster in terms of getting his squad fit and aerobically you'll be ahead of the pack probably for a few weeks thanks to PDC's discipline but if you're all expecting some kind of freakish machine of gods to stroll out and demolish teams who started fitness training a little later you're gonna be disappointed. The common misconception is that if you train your body through anaerobically and VO2 max levels that you'll get stupidly fit, but that's not the case. You'll end up with a massive body most likely and you'll be able to endure that lactic acid pain better than others but we're not going to start seeing John O'Shea sprinting past Theo Walcott because PDC has started making them push through barriers. Most Interval training, and especially the kind required to play the sport of football, can be conducted aerobically, and by not activating lactic acid you're body can go for longer - which is why they've set 550m as the optimum distance for Bolt to race Farrah.

You have a low opinion on Cabaye because you hate NUFC, fair enough but I've watched him for a few years and he is a lot better than you reckon he is and even last season he wasn't as bad as you say. I guarantee you that if he moves from Newcastle to a bigger and better club you'll see how good he really is, that manager is ruining him. At the end of the day, pre season means nothing, and nor does the first few games of the season - the true test of your foreign recruitment drive will come when the going gets tough, when they need to dig in away at Norwich for a point on a blustery November evening, for example. To say you've got a near perfect balance without watching them competitively is ludicrous and by that reasoning, Wenger should stick with the crap that he already has on his books rather than pursue Suarez because his team just ripped City apart and his goal is, as always, 4th.
 
Terry_Hardacre said:
Fitness levels? who the **** goes on about fitness levels when looking into how good a squad is? Di Canio might be a monster in terms of getting his squad fit and aerobically you'll be ahead of the pack probably for a few weeks thanks to PDC's discipline but if you're all expecting some kind of freakish machine of gods to stroll out and demolish teams who started fitness training a little later you're gonna be disappointed. The common misconception is that if you train your body through anaerobically and VO2 max levels that you'll get stupidly fit, but that's not the case. You'll end up with a massive body most likely and you'll be able to endure that lactic acid pain better than others but we're not going to start seeing John O'Shea sprinting past Theo Walcott because PDC has started making them push through barriers. Most Interval training, and especially the kind required to play the sport of football, can be conducted aerobically, and by not activating lactic acid you're body can go for longer - which is why they've set 550m as the optimum distance for Bolt to race Farrah.

You have a low opinion on Cabaye because you hate NUFC, fair enough but I've watched him for a few years and he is a lot better than you reckon he is and even last season he wasn't as bad as you say. I guarantee you that if he moves from Newcastle to a bigger and better club you'll see how good he really is, that manager is ruining him. At the end of the day, pre season means nothing, and nor does the first few games of the season - the true test of your foreign recruitment drive will come when the going gets tough, when they need to dig in away at Norwich for a point on a blustery November evening, for example. To say you've got a near perfect balance without watching them competitively is ludicrous and by that reasoning, Wenger should stick with the crap that he already has on his books rather than pursue Suarez because his team just ripped City apart and his goal is, as always, 4th.
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Stopped reading when you started going on about JoS sprinting past Walcott. I'm not going to take you seriously if you can't return the same manners on someone else board. My views are my views, Accept it or crawl back to your own board. Don't take the piss eh?
 
QWOP said:
Although I wonder how well we would do with PDC in charge!
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Probably better then the shower you have running your club. I still have doubt about your defence. Santon is **** (no denying that), Collocini's head is elsewhere, Williamson and the cheating Taylor are ****. I don't know what makes you think that 20 million worth of defenders that were **** last season will now suddenly be world beater because of Newcastle's **** training. (Collocini's words not mine.)

I don't know how you can be happy with any of the defense that kept only 6 clean sheets (1 more then the leagues lowest) and conceded 68 goals (only Villa, Wigan and Reading were worse.) The simple fact is that if they were **** last season this season will be the same.
 
sanddancersoftheworlduniteandtakeover said:
Probably better then the shower you have running your club. I still have doubt about your defence. Santon is **** (no denying that), Collocini's head is elsewhere, Williamson and the cheating Taylor are ****. I don't know what makes you think that 20 million worth of defenders that were **** last season will now suddenly be world beater because of Newcastle's **** training. (Collocini's words not mine.)

I don't know how you can be happy with any of the defense that kept only 6 clean sheets (1 more then the leagues lowest) and conceded 68 goals (only Villa, Wigan and Reading were worse.) The simple fact is that if they were **** last season this season will be the same.
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the toon are not much better if at all. they will still be fighting the relegation battle this season...
 
bonnybobbypark said:
Can I put them both in?

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unfortunately not marra ;) some canny debate in this thread, i still couldnt give a **** what them lot do tbf, i think this might be my 3rd contribution to the thread.

now if we were talking about our manager or chairman or backroom staff or being the first premiership club to be given the investor in people award or the fact that we dont have JFK on our books or to a slightly lesser extent our sponsor, not to mention our grade A academy, or that we havnt signed a player who has been officially charged with rape then i might be more interested
 
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