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Should Scotland be an Independent Country?

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Interesting.

Theres **** all wrong with the NHS apart from A&E waiting times.

Am curious, pud. Would you let people who couldn't afford the "extra" NHS money to receive the same treatment? or would you privitise that part and let companies run a bidding war to see who can do it the cheapest?
 
The whole of the EU will be under TTIP, including Scotland should it join. Whether or not you want to bring the market into state services is another thing - but the Tories are attempting the same reforms that Sweden very successfully introduced http://www.cityam.com/article/how-sweden-reformed-its-state-lay-foundations-future-growth

Oh aye, Sweden's model of mass privatisation. The one which has their education system plummetting down international rankings and has stirred public opinion against the incumbent government to point where they will soon be replaced by a coalition of socialists and feminists <laugh>
 
Oh and TTIP is genuinely one of the most worrying Treaties I have read about.

Granting corporations the legal status of nation-states. Are they completely looney or what. No benefits, only governments being taken to the cleaners by litigation happy, profit hungry corporations for daring to impose standards or practises
 
****ing cringe.

Won't someone think of the poor, poor journalists? How dare we express our disgust at these people. Everyone knows every single journalist is impartial, always tell the truth and never have ulterior motives.

I think its absolutely shocking that the press have been accused of spinning stories in their favour. Seriously. When was the last time that a newspaper or journalist was taken to court for lying?

Absolutely sickening.
 
Interesting.

Theres **** all wrong with the NHS apart from A&E waiting times.

Am curious, pud. Would you let people who couldn't afford the "extra" NHS money to receive the same treatment? or would you privitise that part and let companies run a bidding war to see who can do it the cheapest?
Those who couldn't afford would get access to the full range of nhs services as they stand.

Pay a premium, you get access to a range of private services out with gp/ae ...based on your premium. For example, physiotherapy or out patient treatment.

That way, you ease pressure on normal nhs services for those on a low income.
 
Those who couldn't afford would get access to the full range of nhs services as they stand.

Pay a premium, you get access to a range of private services out with gp/ae ...based on your premium. For example, physiotherapy or out patient treatment.

That way, you ease pressure on normal nhs services for those on a low income.

Pack it in you fascist **** <grr>

I told you before, free health care for everyone right across the board no exceptions. <grr>
 
They built a big **** off private hospital in Clydebank.

How did that work out ?
 
They built a big **** off private hospital in Clydebank.

How did that work out ?
And marketed for Arabs...against hospitals in London

Clydebank v London

It also failed because they didn't run it in conjunction with nhs services.

It is now mainly nhs.
 
Oh aye, Sweden's model of mass privatisation. The one which has their education system plummetting down international rankings and has stirred public opinion against the incumbent government to point where they will soon be replaced by a coalition of socialists and feminists

Sweden's the only EU country which has a lower government debt now than it had 10 years ago, a key point is it's actually paying for it's social services rather than borrowing to pay for it - and the recent decline in test results was almost all in the 80% of schools that were still state controlled. I was reading somewhere that one of the big problems is there's a brain drain of teachers from Sweden to Norway because the ****s are paying over the odds with their oil money. There's been cases of some of their schools going bust etc, but that's what happens when companies are run badly.

Also the Lefties look like forming the new Government, but that's more to do with the anti-immigration far-Right eating into the center-Right and them being uncoalitionable.

Oh and TTIP is genuinely one of the most worrying Treaties I have read about.

Granting corporations the legal status of nation-states. Are they completely looney or what. No benefits, only governments being taken to the cleaners by litigation happy, profit hungry corporations for daring to impose standards or practises

There's a few quirks they are trying to iron out (for instance Tobacco companies possibly being able to sue for anti-Tobacco laws) but the main benefit of it is supposed to creating standard rules across all the 26 countries, so that for instance one company doesn't invest a couple of billion in another country just to find a new loony-left party elected, which enacts a new law and steals private capital. Removing risk of Government appropriation or rule changes is very important to investor confidence, and should bring risks and costs down (and it removes a load of costly hanger-on ****s like lawyers and bankers from having to get involved in cross border trade).
 
And marketed for Arabs...

It failed because they didn't run it in conjunction with nhs services.

It is now mainly nhs.

The Hospital is all NHS . The four star hotel that's part of it.... not sure .
 
Those who couldn't afford would get access to the full range of nhs services as they stand.

Pay a premium, you get access to a range of private services out with gp/ae ...based on your premium. For example, physiotherapy or out patient treatment.

That way, you ease pressure on normal nhs services for those on a low income.

Fair enough.

My main issue with healthcare is the leeway we give to pharmaceutical companies.