Scotch Independence - the countdown
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They are still taxed to the hilt you ****in moron. All Scandinavian countries are.
Now **** off mutant and swivel on it.
Whereas we're taxed to the hilt and pay even more tax on money that's already been taxed. Aye, that's much better.
EDGE.
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But what do they spend it on, that's the point. They have quite an arms budget for a start.
Whereas we're taxed to the hilt and pay even more tax on money that's already been taxed. Aye, that's much better.
No.
They may well be but we have to pay for education,medical care,bins,water,council tax etc from net pay,give me the Scandinavian model any day.
Oh dear, looks like ER's taking the biggest battering since Aldo's wife was five minutes late with his dinner!
Don't think so. Socially the Scandinavians are way ahead of us but they are heavily taxed and have little disposable income. Now what's the SNP's take on independence pro Independence. Oh that's right, "It'll be alright on the night".
EDGE.
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Everybody needs to pay for every thing. There is no such thing as a free lunch.
I'd rather be taxed less and spend my earnings on what I want and not to pay for a huge state that I will not benefit from.
The Fins regularly have boom and bust.
The Swedes have more % unemployed than the UK
The Norwegians have been lucky by discovering oil allowing them some comfort.
The Scandinavian model is by no means perfect, be careful what you wish for.
The Scandos have been doing some funky free market reforms:
The streets of Stockholm are awash with the blood of sacred cows. The local think tanks are overflowing with fresh ideas about “welfare entrepreneurs” and “lean management.” Indeed, Sweden has done most of the things that politicians know they ought to do but seldom have the courage to attempt. It has put its pension system on a sound foundation, replacing a defined-benefit system with a defined-contribution one and making automatic adjustments for longer life expectancy. It has reinvented its state as well as reducing its size. The Swedes have done more than anyone else in the world—certainly more than the cautious Americans—to embrace Milton Friedman’s idea of educational vouchers, allowing parents to send their children to whatever school they choose and inviting private companies or voluntary groups to establish “free” schools, that is, schools that are paid for but not run by the state. In Stockholm half the schoolchildren go to independent schools. In the country as a whole almost half have opted out of their local schools (so they go either to another one, farther away, or to an independent school). More than 60 percent of independent schools are organized as profit-making institutions: Most are small businesses of one to four schools, but a few belong to big chains such as the International English School...
Both Denmark and Finland are now ahead of the United States in the economic-freedom index run by the Fraser Institute, a Canadian think tank, and Sweden has been catching up. The old ratchet has been reversed: Rather than extending the state into the market, the Nordics are extending the market into the state.
Household Actual Disposable Income
1. United States
2. Luxembourg
3. Norway
4. Germany
5. Switzerland
6. Australia
7. Austria
8. France
9. Canada
10. Belgium
11. Sweden
12. United Kingdom
13. Finland
14. Netherlands
15. Denmark
EDGE.
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Also notice the irony in Labour rallying against the Tories' attempts to copy the Swedish model, with the likes of Free Schools and the introduction of market reforms into the NHS.
EDGE.
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Just had another conversation with a guy who said his company are not spending money until such times as they know the result of the referendum...
Yes could be a serious short term kick in the balls to a lot of stakeholders.
Yes could be a serious short term kick in the balls to a lot of stakeholders.
Who said I want to spend all Scotlamds oil revenue on buroo money?
Oh that's right , you did. Yet more pish prattled by you.
The Norwegians do not invest it all abroad. They have heavily invested un their own infrastructure using oil tax revenues. Yet more pish from you.
Their oil fund was set up to help future generations. So you were a wee bit correct when you said they won't benifit from oil until it runs out. Thing is though that is why the ****ing thing was set up in the first place but you thought it funny. Now that's not only pish but it's very stupid pish.
You really are a ****ing spanner Del.
EDGE.
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I can't really be arsed conversing with you as you are the thickest **** on here so this will be the last. You say I'm talking pish even though I posted the first link that came to hand, then you say you agree with me and I was right then you say I'm talking pish again.
Norway invests all the tax that they earn from the oil companies abroad.
http://eml.berkeley.edu/~webfac/cromer/Lie.pdf
The Norwegian Government Pension Fund Global is the world’s largest sovereign wealth fund. At present, it has a market value of about 4 600 billion NOK (770 billion USD), which is around 140 per cent of Norway’s GDP. This is a result not only of high levels of petroleum revenue, but also of a solution whereby government revenue is channelled straight into the fund and invested abroad, with clear rules for how capital can be fed back into the Norwegian economy through annual political decisions on balancing the government budget. And it is only the return on the fund that can be used in this way; the capital invested is not available for consumption and must remain in global capital markets.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2536424/Everyone-Norway-millionaire.html
Norway has sought to avoid the boom and bust cycle by investing the cash abroad, rather than at home.
Just 2 examples along with the other one I posted earlier.
Stop being a simplistic mutant and read the stuff on the web rather than making a Mindy of yourselff