Scotch Independence - the countdown

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Should Scotland be an Independent Country?

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stopmeandslapme said:
Imagine being born to parents who moved to another country looking for a better way of life. Imagine moking the residents of that country and telling them that they should be more like the residents of the other country your parents fled.
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Whit?
 
stopmeandslapme said:
His parents moved from the independent peoples republic of oirland to Glasgow in search of a better life.
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Putting aside the fact that he probably had no input on the decision to move country, didn't Britain export it's culture to about 1/3rd the landmass of Earth?
 
MalteseMick said:
Putting aside the fact that he probably had no input on the decision to move country, didn't Britain export it's culture to about 1/3rd the landmass of Earth?
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I don't know what that's got to do with anything. I'm just saying that his parents fled an independent former member of the UK, which is also a republic, for the UK. Now he's mocking those that don't want Scotland to go the same way.
 
stopmeandslapme said:
I don't know what that's got to do with anything. I'm just saying that his parents fled an independent former member of the UK, which is also a republic, for the UK. Now he's mocking those that don't want Scotland to go the same way.
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I'm saying his parents left Ireland, not him, and you can't complain about immigrants bringing their culture and/or political ideas with them to their new homeland, since Britain did quite a bit of that. We could then open up a whole debate on whether his parents actually fled (for instance did I flee the UK for Malta?) and whether or not Irish independence was responsible for that fleeing, considering millions of Irish people did actually flee when the country was still in the UK.
 
MalteseMick said:
I'm saying his parents left Ireland, not him, and you can't complain about immigrants bringing their culture and/or political ideas with them to their new homeland, since Britain did quite a bit of that. We could then open up a whole debate on whether his parents actually fled (for instance did I flee the UK for Malta?) and whether or not Irish independence was responsible for that fleeing, considering millions of Irish people did actually flee when the country was still in the UK.
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Bring their culture - fine, I'm sure there are plenty of diddly dee clubs in the UK for him to go to but to try to change the state to match the one from which they escaped?
 
stopmeandslapme said:
Bring their culture - fine, I'm sure there are plenty of diddly dee clubs in the UK for him to go to but to try to change the state to match the one from which they escaped?
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So what you are proposing is that everyone must take responsibility for the actions of their forebears?

Is that a fair summation?
 
"Yes, I think we should be independent. What have we got to lose? A Tory government? I'm looking forward to the vote just because it will be a novelty for Scottish people to fill in official forms while still in possession of their own belt and shoelaces. And imagine what Scotland's annual Independence Day celebrations will look like; the ****ing D-Day Landings".
 
DevAdvocate said:
So what you are proposing is that everyone must take responsibility for the actions of their forebears?

Is that a fair summation?
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Not saying anyone should do anything just pointing out the facts about the Boyles move to Scotland and taking exception to his remark that anyone who doesn't vote "Yes" is a little puppy dog wagging their tail to God Save The Queen. Always thought he was an unfunny **** anyway.
 
stopmeandslapme said:
Not saying anyone should do anything just pointing out the facts about the Boyles move to Scotland and taking exception to his remark that anyone who doesn't vote "Yes" is a little puppy dog wagging their tail to God Save The Queen. Always thought he was an unfunny **** anyway.
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It's a weird angle you've taken, one that I can poke about 20,000 holes in. For instance do we tell all the Ulster Scots that they have no right to an opinion on the political state in the form of Northern Ireland since their distant relatives all moved there several hundred years ago - what about Anglo-Australians imposing an Anglicised state on the Aboriginals, etc etc etc etc etc etc

It's all a bit little Englander actually "those foreigners, coming over here, telling us how to run our country" type thing.
 
stopmeandslapme said:
Not saying anyone should do anything just pointing out the facts about the Boyles move to Scotland and taking exception to his remark that anyone who doesn't vote "Yes" is a little puppy dog wagging their tail to God Save The Queen. Always thought he was an unfunny **** anyway.
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And how is the decision made by his parents a factor exactly?

He may indeed be about as funny as a fire in an orphange but having an opinion of his own is hardly a crime. A decision made years ago by his father or mother (of which we know nothing) does not make his opinion any less valid than anyone else.

If his father had been a convicted rapist would that mean he is not allowed an opinion on rape?
 
I was just looking at the irony of it all. Yes he is allowed an opinion but I think he should **** off with the insulting the people of the UK/"No" voters. I blame the parents.
 
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