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Scotch Independence - the countdown

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by stopmeandslapme, Feb 5, 2014.

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Should Scotland be an Independent Country?

  1. Yes

  2. No

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  1. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

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    Come on, a bit hyperbolic perhaps.

    Key to wanting in would be being inside the import/export tax barrier of one of the biggest free markets in the world. National competitiveness improved significantly
     
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  2. Mick O'Toon

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    The bird in the tartan dress was fit even though she was a NO voter but clapped when Mary Hen said her piece:biggrin:
     
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  3. Spook

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    So it doesn't join NATO, but it will join the EU. See my other posts and ask yourself why they would join an organisation like that after campaigning for independence for over two years. What a colossal waste of energy and time.
     
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  4. Rubber Johnny

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    Michelle Mone would get aswell.
     
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  5. Spook

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    Leaving the Union to join the EU is a pointless exercise. If I was a Scot, I would be far more enthusiastic about independence if we chose not to join the EU.
     
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  6. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

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    What? The two are not mutually inclusive. One is a treaty whereby you commit yourself to potentially costly wars in the name of the "defence" of other signatory nations. The other is a trade bloc. Competitiveness in global trade is key to a country's sustainability and growth, involvement in largely needless interventions is not
     
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  7. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

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    Not really. If Scotland were to remain outside the EU, then the benefits of a lower corporation tax rate will be reduced as relocation to Scotland will put companies outside EU tax barriers.
    A lower corp tax rate in alignment with the other competitive advantages afforded to a country by being a member of the EU is likely to see significant FDI benefits
     
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  8. Spook

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    It's not just that though, is it? Trade blocs are about trade, hence the name. They shouldn't enforce laws on immigration, the environment and sanctions against non-EU countries. The EU systemically bullies the smaller member states that have less financial clout, the Lisbon Treaty is evidence of this. Countries like Portugal and Greece have suffered at the hands of the EU.
     
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  9. Mick O'Toon

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    And Westminster doesn't do that?
     
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  10. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

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    Listen im not a major fan of the EU and I certainly was not happy by the manner in which Ireland was almost made to ratify the Lisbon treaty. Im simply pointing out why Scotland would want to be a member of the EU for the sake of its own competitiveness.
    And as far reaching as the tentacles of the EU go, I wouldn't exactly equate the joining of the EU with the surrendering of independence or national sovereignty ........ yet!
     
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  11. Spook

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    It does, which is why I'm in favour of Scottish independence. It's the policy of joining the EU that baffles me. Scotland would only be swapping its chains for nice, shiny new ones if it joined the EU as an independent state.
     
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  12. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

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    Well its still better that the staus quo in terms of lobbying for ones national interests in the international arena.

    Independence will allow Scotland to participant as a member nation state in its own right, away from the current arrangement as a mere sub-region of a member state
     
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  13. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

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    Anyway, ahm away tae mah scratcher. Night all
     
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  14. Mick O'Toon

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    I'm not qualified to say whether joining the EU is a good/bad thing for Scotland or staying on their own could be any better but if you join the EU you get nice new roads!
     
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    Dublin this evening

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    Vote Early, vote Often.
     
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  16. Gambol

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    Eddie Izzard says No <laugh>
     
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    Scots tennis ace Murray shows his love for Yes

    ANDY MURRAY has declared his support for the Yes campaign - just hours before the people of Scotland go to the polls.

    The tennis ace has previously remained silent on the independence referendum, but dramatically posted a message on Twitter in the early hours of Thursday morning.

    He tweeted: “Huge day for Scotland today! no campaign negativity last few days totally swayed my view on it. excited to see the outcome. Let's do this!”
     
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  18. eric cartman

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    He is a proud Scotsman.
     
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    He's a ****. :)
     
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  20. Patience

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Fancies Tim Henman.
     
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