Scotch Independence - the countdown

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Should Scotland be an Independent Country?

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Funny though! Barely a day went by without one of his MPs getting caught pumping another MP (usually the same sex) or killing themselves by erotic auto-asphyxiation.

I know that choosing a favourite, or best, Tory leader is like saying who your faviourite serial killer is but relatively speaking he wasn't that bad.
 
I like john major. He was fantastically dull. Was amazing to find out he was a sexual predator smashing the granny out of everyone.

Clearly I liked thatcher. Thought she was the best pm since Churchill.

All that said at the time I liked Blair. Thought he was a decent pm. Just a shame his party ****ed everything up sticking us in so much debt.
 
I know that choosing a favourite, or best, Tory leader is like saying who your faviourite serial killer is but relatively speaking he wasn't that bad.

He suffered because people had just got fed up of the Tories and the press could sense change in the air. I agree, as Tories go he was quite liberal, not your frothy-mouthed, I-wish-it-was-still-1950s type.

I've got to be honest with you Dan, if Scotland does get it's independence I do worry about England. Despite what a few of the frothy-moothers on here might think I like England and I like the English. It's Westminster and the political elite I despise. There's an old adage in politics that no main opposition party stays in opposition forever but I do worry that if the Tories win the GE in 2015 you're going to be stuck with them for years to come.

**** it, even if Labour do win they've promised to stick with the Tories spending polices for at least the first term so you're ****ed whoever gets in.
 
I like john major. He was fantastically dull. Was amazing to find out he was a sexual predator smashing the granny out of everyone.

Clearly I liked thatcher. Thought she was the best pm since Churchill.

All that said at the time I liked Blair. Thought he was a decent pm. Just a shame his party ****ed everything up sticking us in so much debt.

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I like john major. He was fantastically dull. Was amazing to find out he was a sexual predator smashing the granny out of everyone.

Clearly I liked thatcher. Thought she was the best pm since Churchill.

All that said at the time I liked Blair. Thought he was a decent pm. Just a shame his party f**ed everything up sticking us in so much debt.

Blair was an utter c**t. He had an enormous majority (ooh er missus) and could have put in place real social-economic polices that would have benefited the country for decades to come but in the end he was just a slightly right of centre Tory, tied to the press and big business.

And to think I campaigned for the c**t <grr>
 
That's probably why I liked him..

Labour ****ed up appointing miliband. He won't win anything. I thought his brother would get the nod. I'd actually have considered voting for his brother.
 
Mail is reporting an 8point lead for no.

Also reporting marks an spencer CEO has stated prices will go up in an independent Scotland.. Which I'm sure will really upset you all.. That said Iceland prices will go up. Which I'd imagine will be a devastating blow for some.

Can someone ask the Marks and Spencers CEO why they have exactly the same prices as the UK on the independent Isle of Man?

Tesco do put their prices up here, but M&S price match the UK for everything. Not only that, but when I was living in Guernsey M&S was actually cheaper than the UK because they knocked off the VAT.
 
He suffered because people had just got fed up of the Tories and the press could sense change in the air. I agree, as Tories go he was quite liberal, not your frothy-mouthed, I-wish-it-was-still-1950s type.

I've got to be honest with you Dan, if Scotland does get it's independence I do worry about England.
Despite what a few of the frothy-moothers on here might think I like England and I like the English. It's Westminster and the political elite I despise. There's an old adage in politics that no main opposition party stays in opposition forever but I do worry that if the Tories win the GE in 2015 you're going to be stuck with them for years to come.

**** it, even if Labour do win they've promised to stick with the Tories spending polices for at least the first term so you're ****ed whoever gets in.

I quite agree. I just hope that the PM doesn't spend his whole time trying to settle scores with Scotland. If he does we'll be ****ed. Thogh we could b regardless.
 
I don't worry about England - I don't think there's interdependency there at all. If England gets free of the UK it will run away with its Anglo-Saxon economic model without the millstone of the under populated poor regions around its neck.

The regions will have to compete with England on their own terms, rather than sit and wait for handouts. Overall the competition should force the respective governments into producing something better. Countries are not different from corporations or individuals in that regard - they need to be on their toes, and face competition in order to produce a better model - otherwise people and business will move.
 
I don't worry about England - I don't think there's interdependency there at all. If England gets free of the UK it will run away with it's Anglo-Saxon economic model without the millstone of the under populated poor regions around its neck.

The regions will have to compete with England on their own terms, rather than sit and wait for handouts. Overall the competition should force the respective governments into producing something better. Countries are not different from corporations or individuals in that regard - they need to be on their toes, and face competition in order to produce a better model - otherwise people and business will move.

The Anglo-Saxon model is dog-eat-dog capitalism.

I'd much rather have the Nordic model, but I think our population is too big to support such a large welfare state.

In other news, some cockend in Brussels is telling us to build more houses for immigrants, even those who choose not to work.
 
Can someone ask the Marks and Spencers CEO why they have exactly the same prices as the UK on the independent Isle of Man?

Tesco do put their prices up here, but M&S price match the UK for everything. Not only that, but when I was living in Guernsey M&S was actually cheaper than the UK because they knocked off the VAT.

Cos the IoM is such a **** place to live that it wouldn't feel right punishing the ****s by charging them more for food.

Incidentally, what currency do they have on the Isle of Bollocks (serious question)?
 
Cos the IoM is such a **** place to live that it wouldn't feel right punishing the ****s by charging them more for food.

Incidentally, what currency do they have on the Isle of Bollocks (serious question)?

Manx Pound - pegged to the UK pound, but not necessarily legal tender in the UK.
 
Interest rate set by the BoE?

Aye - the banks here are offshore branches of UK banks, so they just sell us pretty much the exact same packages as onshore (bar maybe certain tax costs, such as ISAs are pointless because there's no capital gains).