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Scotch Independence - the countdown

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by stopmeandslapme, Feb 5, 2014.

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Should Scotland be an Independent Country?

  1. Yes

  2. No

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  1. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

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  2. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    I've been beelin' a lot recently with all this carry on. Was pleased to see a few 'No Thanks' placards in my neighbours windows this morning though. Might get some of my own <ok>

    (More Yes ones though :()
     
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  3. The Anilingus Aficionado

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    scotchpsiched, motherwell, United Kingdom, 5 hours ago
    Hard-pressed English taxpayers today see Scottish families enjoying free tuition in higher education (worth £9,000 a year), widespread exemptions from prescription charges and state-funded care for the elderly, and wonder why they don¿t get the same benefits,......COS YOU VOTED TORY

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    Aldo's been on the Mail website then :rolleyes:
     
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  4. Sweats

    Sweats Sure Forum Moderator

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    Well written article that.

    Hits the nail on the head. All salmond has done is create animosity. Lovely.

    You will all be pleased to know I won't be online today as am at a charity golf tournament.
     
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  5. The Anilingus Aficionado

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    It's coming, Trev...

    The Unionist's ****ed it.

    And with the 3 stooges coming up today, they are compounding it. Salmond will lap this **** up.
     
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  6. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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  7. The Anilingus Aficionado

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    That's not a correct comparison.

    Scotland is not Spain.
    Spain has a smaller debt to GDP ratio than the UK
    Spain's interest is set by the ECB, which has to find a one size Fitz Hall for 18 Eurozone countries.
     
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  8. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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  9. Patience

    Patience Spastic Arab

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    I read that today as well, the boys clearly a beelin' spastic of a human. The comments are crackin'!

    <laugh>
     
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  10. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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  11. Mick

    Mick Probably won't answer PMs Staff Member

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    Paul Krugman's an arse.
     
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  12. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    "If they're coming up by train, I'll pay the fare." - he's still a ****, but that was actually quite funny from the fat divisive arse.
     
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  13. Archers Road

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    "If they're coming up by train, I'll pay the fare." - he's still a ****, but that was actually quite funny from the fat divisive arse.
     
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  14. Girvan Loyal 1690

    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    The fat slug is already acting as if he's president.
     
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  15. The Anilingus Aficionado

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    If it does happen, I hope we have an In/Out referendum on EU membership.

    Fuck the EU and its stagflation!!
     
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  16. Mick

    Mick Probably won't answer PMs Staff Member

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    I thought you were supposed to be a business man?

    I'd cream my trunks if the EU got responsibility for Gambling - every single ****y EU country currently has its own laws (and it's amazing how different they are), so you have to do a 6 month project getting a copy of your website compatible with ****ing Bulgarian legislation just to serve their ****ty poor population. Multiply this by 25 countries and it costs us a fortune in overheads to do business across the continent.

    This is why the Yanks were running away with big business for years (and why Europe have caught up more recently, think IKEA, Ryanair, Zara, Vodafone) - the Yanks have a 300m consumer base and a single market making it much easier to create economies of scale. All these ******ed UKIPers want us to retreat into a little protectionist hole which means that the UK wouldn't even have a seat at the EU table to protect the interests of the likes of Vodafone.
     
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  17. The Raging Oxter

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    Of all the bad arguments urging the Scots to vote no &#8211; and there are plenty &#8211; perhaps the worst is the demand that Scotland should remain in the union to save England from itself. Responses to my column last week suggest this wretched apron-strings argument has some traction among people who claim to belong to the left.

    Consider what it entails: it asks a nation of 5.3 million to forgo independence to exempt a nation of 54 million from having to fight its own battles. In return for this self-denial, the five million must remain yoked to the dismal politics of cowardice and triangulation that cause the problems from which we ask them to save us.

    http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...d-most-dangerous-thing-of-all-hope?CMP=twt_gu
     
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  18. stopmeandslapme

    stopmeandslapme Well-Known Member

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    Presumably you would get one as one of the first things your leaders will do is seek to join the EU and they wouldn't do that without seeking the consent of the people. Would they?
     
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  19. VenomPD

    VenomPD Merrick jr

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    Larry, Curly & Moe rocking up to Scotland. Pure desperation. <laugh>
     
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  20. The Anilingus Aficionado

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    I don't want to be in the EU, but like Norway and Switzerland, it hasn't cost them anything to be outside the EU and in the EEA (Euro Economic Area), indeed, they're doing better than anyone in the EU by all accounts, bar maybe Poland.

    You need to ask yourself, "what difference will Scotland make to the EU, and what difference will the EU make to Scotland?"

    I'd say the answer is negligible. They'd impose some of their European Civil Law on us, which has proved to be particularly unpopular in light of the fact we and many English speaking states use common law. We'd be a small voice in a Federalist EU, which makes the decision to split with Nige, to make more decisions in Scotland, to eventually be gobbled up by the EU superstate, all the more perplexing.

    If the EU harmonise everything and make it easier for business, then we can adopt those measures if it's in the national interest. It doesn't mean that look inwards and inbreed, it means we get best of both worlds.

    What I find hilariously ironic is that the UK should be broken up and 300 years of history and achievement, but we should in turn surrender all sovereignty almost immediately to the EU.

    As already shown, Norway and Switzerland are both outwith the EU and in the EEA and both are doing pretty well.
     
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