Scotch Independence - the countdown

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Should Scotland be an Independent Country?

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We're more likely to be out of Europe if we vote No. The Tories, in my opinion, will win the GE next year, hold an In/Out referendum in 2017 which, no matter if most Scots vote yes to stay in, we'll most likely get papped out because most English will vote to exit.
 
NO the NO side is full of rhetoric and Bluster with NO substance.

There is no sensible case for staying with the Union if there was they would have presented it by now.

On the No side:

The Establishment, The Wealthy, The Landowners, The Fearful, The Ignorant.

There is plenty of sensible reasons for staying in a Union that had provided security, stability, strength and above all, a decent standard of living to its residents. This constant whining about stuff that doesn't matter (really) when we're amongst the richest people in the world.

If you know anything about the history of the world, and Europe in particular, you'd see great nations dissolve and chaos ensue. I'm not suggesting for one minute that the UK dissolves and civil war breaks-out but our people, led by our short-sighted politicians are guilty of only thinking about today.

There are plenty of good reasons for voting No, our family of nations and particularly Scotland were ****-all until we joined together and led the world for 200 years. All the economic data suggests now that we've got it right, albeit, not UK wide yet, and the the UK economy is about to turn the corner, could Scotland ceding from the UK cause irreparable damage to the rUK and start a process which there are no winners?

If you think about it, spazzies gonna spaz.
 
We're more likely to be out of Europe if we vote No. The Tories, in my opinion, will win the GE next year, hold an In/Out referendum in 2017 which, no matter if most Scots vote yes to stay in, we'll most likely get papped out because most English will vote to exit.

Fuck the EU, it's ****ed again. France's socialism being punished with next to zero growth since 2012.

Quite why the Jocks want to ditch 300 years of shared history, legislation, culture to jump into bed with countries we were fighting in a series of wars not that long ago, whose legal systems are different to ours, differing cultures etc is deeply disturbing to this Banburian.

I'd vote out the EU, not because I'm racist, but because it's not what we want. OUT OF THE UK - JOIN THE FEDERALIST EU...?

Why?
 
It's part of the Union as it stands you ****in ignoramus. Yes it is Britain as it stands.

****in muppet.

<laugh>

The art of gentle pursusion.


The British Isles is not changing whatever happens. I know it's difficult for you, but try to understand the difference between Geographical and Political.
 
Fuck the EU, it's ****ed again. France's socialism being punished with next to zero growth since 2012.

Quite why the Jocks want to ditch 300 years of shared history, legislation, culture to jump into bed with countries we were fighting in a series of wars not that long ago, whose legal systems are different to ours, differing cultures etc is deeply disturbing to this Banburian.

I'd vote out the EU, not because I'm racist, but because it's not what we want. OUT OF THE UK - JOIN THE FEDERALIST EU...?

Why?

Is Jocklands legal system not different to Nigels?
 
We Brits are a family, you Irish were colonised because you were religiously conservative and preferred to believe the dogma handed down from Rome than to embrace the enlightenment.

PITY THE TIMMY <LAUGH>

The enlightenment.

I'd post a picture of Orangemen if I wasn't on my phone.

The most enlightened thing you could do is break the Union and look after yourselves, there's no bottle thre though.

At least 65% for the Eton boy lovers IMHO.
 
Fuck the EU, it's ****ed again. France's socialism being punished with next to zero growth since 2012.

Quite why the Jocks want to ditch 300 years of shared history, legislation, culture to jump into bed with countries we were fighting in a series of wars not that long ago, whose legal systems are different to ours, differing cultures etc is deeply disturbing to this Banburian.

I'd vote out the EU, not because I'm racist, but because it's not what we want. OUT OF THE UK - JOIN THE FEDERALIST EU...?

Why?

Get tae **** <laugh>
 
The enlightenment.

I'd post a picture of Orangemen if I wasn't on my phone.

The most enlightened thing you could do is break the Union and look after yourselves, there's no bottle thre though.

At least 65% for the Eton boy lovers IMHO.

Get back to confession you tottie howking mhutant.
 
There is plenty of sensible reasons for staying in a Union that had provided security, stability, strength and above all, a decent standard of living to its residents. This constant whining about stuff that doesn't matter (really) when we're amongst the richest people in the world.

If you know anything about the history of the world, and Europe in particular, you'd see great nations dissolve and chaos ensue. I'm not suggesting for one minute that the UK dissolves and civil war breaks-out but our people, led by our short-sighted politicians are guilty of only thinking about today.

There are plenty of good reasons for voting No, our family of nations and particularly Scotland were ****-all until we joined together and led the world for 200 years. All the economic data suggests now that we've got it right, albeit, not UK wide yet, and the the UK economy is about to turn the corner, could Scotland ceding from the UK cause irreparable damage to the rUK and start a process which there are no winners?

If you think about it, spazzies gonna spaz.

Much of what you say is historic and you can argue all day about what might have happened if this or that had happened. That part of your argument can be summed as FEAR of change, which is what I said.


"All the economic data suggests we've got it right"

£1.4 trillion debt AND GROWING would suggest not. Anybody can increase employment if people have to work for very low wages. There are 27 countries in the EU the UK comes 26th on employment rights.
The 4th most unequal country in the developed world AND GROWING
The 4th LOWEST pensions in the EU
Privatising the NHS in England with Scotland to follow if we remain in the Union.

The economc data suggests we've go it right: PROVIDED you are already RICH you will be fine and dandy in the UK and when it finally collapses you can up sticks and away.

In other words we are doing to the UK now what did to the Empire before. Sucking it dry.

Scotland needs to leave this mess as soon as it possibly can. All those that disagree can go and live in their dream rUK.
 
Much of what you say is historic and you can argue all day about what might have happened if this or that had happened. That part of your argument can be summed as FEAR of change, which is what I said.


"All the economic data suggests we've got it right"

£1.4 trillion debt AND GROWING would suggest not. Anybody can increase employment if people have to work for very low wages. There are 27 countries in the EU the UK comes 26th on employment rights.
The 4th most unequal country in the developed world AND GROWING
The 4th LOWEST pensions in the EU
Privatising the NHS in England with Scotland to follow if we remain in the Union.

The economc data suggests we've go it right: PROVIDED you are already RICH you will be fine and dandy in the UK and when it finally collapses you can up sticks and away.

In other words we are doing to the UK now what did to the Empire before. Sucking it dry.

Scotland needs to leave this mess as soon as it possibly can. All those that disagree can go and live in their dream rUK.

The deficit is due to close in the next parliament, then we can work on paying of the £1.4trn debt that you can only do by cutting expinditure. It's simple economics.
Post the links for you other statements.
Privatising the NHS is common-sense. Lower taxes and get health insurance.

*****s gonna mong
 
They are going to take away free education! Only nobody in the world, even the neo-con-evil-nazi party are calling for an end to free education. And anyway education is not free, teachers cost money.

Is there something wrong with me for getting upset when my Facebook wall gets filled with this simplistic ****e?

P.S vote Yes, even if Green Yes are ****s.

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They are going to take away free education! Only nobody in the world, even the neo-con-evil-nazi party are calling for an end to free education. And anyway education is not free, teachers cost money.

Is there something wrong with me for getting upset when my Facebook wall gets filled with this simplistic ****e?

P.S vote Yes, even if Green Yes are ****s.

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I suspect that's in reference to college/university education.
 
There is plenty of sensible reasons for staying in a Union that had provided security, stability, strength and above all, a decent standard of living to its residents. This constant whining about stuff that doesn't matter (really) when we're amongst the richest people in the world.

If you know anything about the history of the world, and Europe in particular, you'd see great nations dissolve and chaos ensue. I'm not suggesting for one minute that the UK dissolves and civil war breaks-out but our people, led by our short-sighted politicians are guilty of only thinking about today.

There are plenty of good reasons for voting No, our family of nations and particularly Scotland were f**k-all until we joined together and led the world for 200 years. All the economic data suggests now that we've got it right, albeit, not UK wide yet, and the the UK economy is about to turn the corner, could Scotland ceding from the UK cause irreparable damage to the rUK and start a process which there are no winners?

If you think about it, spazzies gonna spaz.

Post to be read accompanied by a rousing rendition of Land of hope and glory ^^^^^^:1980_boogie_down: