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Scotch Independence - the countdown

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by stopmeandslapme, Feb 5, 2014.

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Should Scotland be an Independent Country?

  1. Yes

  2. No

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  1. Bib Fortuna's Maw

    Bib Fortuna's Maw Well-Known Member

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    ...and to think, if we were having this discussion two or three years ago, the level of misinformation was such that the English would be moaning about the agriculture costs of the Barnett formula and claiming Scotland lives off the English taxpayer.

    We've been milked like a bitch's tit then told to say thank you because we were lied to and told that most of the milk was being donated from a philanthropic English taxpayer.

    Load of ****e.

    See yeez later.
     
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  2. Deleted 1

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    Are you suggesting there was actually a time when we did?
     
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  3. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    Who said there was an uproar, i'm simply pointing out that another £7b is being pissed down the drain to take 10 minutes off the journey time between Manchester and London. I also recall when the Channel tunnel was planned there was a promise of an eventual link up to Scotland which was canned because it was considered uneconomic. So maybe you are right and we Scots should just jump on a plane when we plan to visit London?

    As for the point i'm trying to make I thought it was pretty clear, this Government (and previous ones) is creating a modern rail system using VAST amounts of cash, but only in England. As I said, it's pretty much everyone else can go **** themselves.
     
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  4. Bib Fortuna's Maw

    Bib Fortuna's Maw Well-Known Member

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    The thing is, they're telling the English to go **** themselves as well unless they're already wealthy.

    We have more expensive Council Tax rates than down south - but that is mainly due to the fact that our water rates are included and we pay a bit extra for free prescriptions, extra NHS spending etc etc.

    Thing is, Scottish water is the cheapest anywhere in the UK for its customers.

    Why?

    Because we and the old Strathclyde Water board objected so strongly to it being privatised (in 1994).

    We are still benefiting from the non-full privitisation of the Water boards that they saw in England.

    Have you been in an NHS hospital in England recently?

    They're ****ing shocking compared to ours yet, the discrepancy between what they have and what they should have will be blamed on the NHS instead of being blamed on the outsourcing of it.

    They're "creating wealth" quicker than we are which is fine and dandy - people need to realise that creating wealth and believing in trickle down economics doesn't make it any truer than believing in God. Wealth is an abstract concept - not an absolute number. If you have the same money as you did yesterday but the guy next to you has more, you are poorer - not because of jealousy or relativism, but because the prices you pay for things will be scaled up in line with the market forces created by the guy next to you (see London house prices etc etc)

    We have much better public services already because the English have had theirs plundered to ****.

    Unless we vote Yes, we're next.
     
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  5. VenomPD

    VenomPD Merrick jr

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    This, all of this <ok>
     
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  6. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    I was specifically talking about Rail though Bib, i've no doubt plenty of people/areas of England are getting the Joan Collins special off this mob, it's the ****ing lies that get me, how HS2 will benefit EVERYONE. Anyone who believes that needs their ****ing bumps felt.
     
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  7. DevAdvocate

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    http://theyorker.co.uk/comment/opinion/society/10089-high-speed-rail-a-raw
     
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  8. Jip Jaap Stam

    Jip Jaap Stam General Chat Moderator
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    Re the use of terms like the North, I demand more clarification. The other day they mentioned the West Country on the news and I assumed they were referring to Montserrat <doh>
     
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  9. Toby

    Toby GC's Life Coach

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    N.I. haven't dumped us...Half the ****s over there throw bricks at the other half because they love us so much.
     
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  10. Toby

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    No one believes that for a second. I doubt even Osbourne was implying it. You're just reading in to it too much.

    It'll help the economies in the cities of the north of England, probably, and if you're denying that then you've never taken a train in this country. They deserve their share of cash too.
     
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  11. RAVENBLACK

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    Something is smelling of rotten eggs here.
     
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  12. gas

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    That'll be your vital organs rotting ya auld fud.
     
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  13. RAVENBLACK

    RAVENBLACK Well-Known Member

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    not having a very good day are you sonny.

    3rd fail in a row.

    **** off and die penis head.
     
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  14. DevAdvocate

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    And yet the official HS2 report stated that everyone will benefit?


    "HS2 has the potential to transform the economic shape of the UK"
    http://hs2.org.uk/what-hs2/economic-benefits-jobs



    Even the Transport Secretary said as much last year:

    "The HS2 high-speed rail project will bring benefits to the whole UK, the transport secretary has said."
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24596181


    And Osborne himself said in that statement &#8220;&#8220;The whole is less than the sum of its parts. So the powerhouse of London dominates more and more. That&#8217;s not healthy for our economy. It&#8217;s not good for our country.&#8221;

    So he was talking about the whole of the UK it seems. <confused>
     
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  15. gas

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    Start a sentence with capital letter<ok>

    Uneducated *****.
     
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  16. Toby

    Toby GC's Life Coach

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    <laugh> <laugh>

    You sure you're not Medro?

    Osborne was talking about England in the bit you quoted, keep on digging <applause>

    Transforming the economic shape of the UK doesn't necessarily imply that EVERYONE in the UK is going to benefit. Unless you're talking about improved tax returns IF it's built and IF it's a success, but then me farting could have a beneficial effect on the UK too if you're looking that far into it.

    I love it when you desperately try and prove something right that you've ballsed up :)
     
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  17. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    You are a cretin. I don't know why i'm wasting my time, I won't waste any more.
     
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  18. RAVENBLACK

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    i DON'T
     
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  19. Toby

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    Did you even read the article you quoted me?
     
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  20. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    Can you even read at all?

    Transforming the economic shape of the UK doesn't necessarily imply that EVERYONE in the UK is going to benefit

    <laugh>


    Now piss off ya ******.
     
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