Sandro not goodenough???

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Sandro's actual tweet said.....

"Good morning Guys, just to let you know that i'm not injured ! Hope that we can win the game today."

I personally don't see that as a challenge to the manager, and if Tim were savvy and secure he'd focus more on the fact that he (Sandro) wants Spurs to win the game and is showing support for the team and love for his fans in expressing this. Done. Finished. No story. Instead the jouro presented Tim with it as if it was a challenge, and Tim swallowed it. He almost didn't, but then he did. Whole.

It's a shame because if he got he whole squad on side, he'd actually have a better chance at another season. At this rate though he'll create too many enemies. It's been the Tim Sherwood show rather than a job of effective management. Sounds too much like AVB, alienating particular players, and Harry before him, giving the media a little too much to talk about whilst not completely delivering on the pitch constantly enough to achieve what was required.

Compare this to the dignity that Martinez shows consistently, and it's clear why Sherwood splits the fans despite the win record.

It wasn't the tweet you have quoted that caused the controversy, Lock Stock.

It was the one he tweeted in reply to Sherwood's comments, which relate to the title of this thread. - sandro's reply on twitter was "LOL LOL LOL LOL", directly after sherwoods comments were made. Everyone knew what the "LOL's" meant and what Sandro was referring to. - just read the comments from the fans.
 
It wasn't the tweet you have quoted that caused the controversy, Lock Stock.

It was the one he tweeted in reply to Sherwood's comments, which relate to the title of this thread. - sandro's reply on twitter was "LOL LOL LOL LOL", directly after sherwoods comments were made. Everyone knew what the "LOL's" meant and what Sandro was referring to. - just read the comments from the fans.

You are right, but it was the one that Sherwood responded to with his not good enough comments. Certainly it escalated from there, but Lock Stock is right that the original tweet could have been dismissed as harmless. He was probably sick of his timeline being blocked by asking about his fitness. We've wondered enough on here.
 
You are right, but it was the one that Sherwood responded to with his not good enough comments. Certainly it escalated from there, but Lock Stock is right that the original tweet could have been dismissed as harmless. He was probably sick of his timeline being blocked by asking about his fitness. We've wondered enough on here.

absolutely SD. I wasn't questioning LS's comments about the original tweet being harmless. I completely agree; it was. <ok>
 
There's a platitude for (almost) every occasion, and most professionals learn some of them. Redknapp had the one Sherwood should have used, "Too many players deserve to start, etc., etc." Sherwood seems to take pride in not resorting to platitudes, which will please nonconformists and fans of plain speech but not too many others.
 
There's a platitude for (almost) every occasion, and most professionals learn some of them. Redknapp had the one Sherwood should have used, "Too many players deserve to start, etc., etc." Sherwood seems to take pride in not resorting to platitudes, which will please nonconformists and fans of plain speech but not too many others.

THIS!!!

It's like he wants to prove to everyone that he has big balls, but he's not Mourinho or even Redknapp in the tactics department. Why? Not even Sir Alex would talk in such a manner about a member of his squad.
 
There's a platitude for (almost) every occasion, and most professionals learn some of them. Redknapp had the one Sherwood should have used, "Too many players deserve to start, etc., etc." Sherwood seems to take pride in not resorting to platitudes, which will please nonconformists and fans of plain speech but not too many others.

I just find it more worrying that he seems to either not realise, or doesn't care when he's being led into making inflammatory comments about his own players. Not good either way!
 
Sandro has been below his best this season, due to being in and out of the team with injuries. But a fully fit and on form Sandro is a massive asset to any team, and should be one of the first names on the team sheet.
 
There's no question he's one of the best DMs in the world at his best. The thing is, what amounts to an anti-DM prejudice on Sherwood's part has helped produce a team that's been scoring more than AVB's did, a lot more. Eleven goals in three games is nothing to sneeze at. Of course we've given up more as well, but, as has been pointed out, most of the goals haven't been due to lack of protection for the back four, but from comic gifts. We're leading the league in goals gifted, for the simple reason, IMO, that Naughton is the only one who puts his foot through the ball when he should, for the most part.

I wish Sherwood would stop saying stupid things constantly, but I give him credit for getting the team scoring goals.
 
There's no question he's one of the best DMs in the world at his best. The thing is, what amounts to an anti-DM prejudice on Sherwood's part has helped produce a team that's been scoring more than AVB's did, a lot more. Eleven goals in three games is nothing to sneeze at. Of course we've given up more as well, but, as has been pointed out, most of the goals haven't been due to lack of protection for the back four, but from comic gifts. We're leading the league in goals gifted, for the simple reason, IMO, that Naughton is the only one who puts his foot through the ball when he should, for the most part.

I wish Sherwood would stop saying stupid things constantly, but I give him credit for getting the team scoring goals.

And when Naughton's your example of how to avoid defensive howlers you know you're in deepest, darkest, stickest ****.
 
Stupid thing is that a player's only a DM if you tell them to be. Point is that all players have a mix of attributes and, even if you don't want to label someone a DM and tell them never to cross the half-way line it might help if they can tackle. IMO Sandro can do an awful lot more than "just" DM responsibilities and if you wanted someone who can put a shift in, close down, tackle AND do other stuff like pass, carry the ball forward and have a pop at goal then Sandro's your man.

Just cos a midfielder can tackle doesn't mean he's only a DM.
 
If the team won, quite comfortably I might add, then how is this a discussion? I could understand if you guys had lost but this seems like a non-issue, unless of course this is nothing but another excuse to have a go a Sherwood.

Sandro is a great player, but if he's reacting like this on Twitter you gotta wonder why he's creating drama unless he's playing on fans disillusion with Sherwood...
 
If the team won, quite comfortably I might add, then how is this a discussion? I could understand if you guys had lost but this seems like a non-issue, unless of course this is nothing but another excuse to have a go a Sherwood.

Sandro is a great player, but if he's reacting like this on Twitter you gotta wonder why he's creating drama unless he's playing on fans disillusion with Sherwood...

Sherwood's not going to be our manager next season so of course we feel aggrieved that he's freezing one of our best players out. Results are all well and good but we're going to have enough of a job keeping our best players this summer without Sherwood pissing off more of them.
 
Sherwood is clearly not a man manager. Whilst the finer points can be learnt, the talent to be a leader, and a leader who is respected and liked, is more innate.

The best I ever had, or saw, was an American boss I had back in the 80's. He had that unique talent of being able to be one of the guys, you could have a drink with him, go and talk to him about anything and he would discuss it man to man with you, not boss to employee. But, you still never ever forgot he was the boss! Not many can pull that trick off.
 
I had a boss like that, too. First time I saw him was right before our biggest sponsor came to visit. He was sweeping the floor.

He had a great motivational trick, which was to always praise my effort. I found out I'll work harder to keep someone's high opinion of me than to earn it.
 
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If the team won, quite comfortably I might add, then how is this a discussion? I could understand if you guys had lost but this seems like a non-issue, unless of course this is nothing but another excuse to have a go a Sherwood.

Sandro is a great player, but if he's reacting like this on Twitter you gotta wonder why he's creating drama unless he's playing on fans disillusion with Sherwood...

Sherwood's not going to be our manager next season so of course we feel aggrieved that he's freezing one of our best players out. Results are all well and good but we're going to have enough of a job keeping our best players this summer without Sherwood pissing off more of them.

Freezing out? If anything he is just putting out the best team he can to win games. Like I said, if he left him out and you lost fair enough,but he chose the team he thought would win and they did...

If Sandro is good enough, and I think he is, he'll be back into the side again soon enough.
 
Freezing out? If anything he is just putting out the best team he can to win games. Like I said, if he left him out and you lost fair enough,but he chose the team he thought would win and they did...

If Sandro is good enough, and I think he is, he'll be back into the side again soon enough.

Sherwood may well be picking what he believes to be the best team available K3, but that doesn't mean that he's right.
Beating Fulham minus their best player, because he belongs to us, is hardly anything to write home about, is it?
He's had some decent results, but he's also had some incredibly poor ones and he keeps making the same mistakes.
 
Freezing out? If anything he is just putting out the best team he can to win games. Like I said, if he left him out and you lost fair enough,but he chose the team he thought would win and they did...

If Sandro is good enough, and I think he is, he'll be back into the side again soon enough.

He's not played for a month. In his last game he played out of position as a centre back and Sherwood praised him. He'll get a game when Sherwood's ego decides he can, it isn't a question of not being good enough.

Sandro has worked with 2 managers, who were very different in style, both made him a key player and the question of attitude or skill has never come up. Sherwood comes in and has fallen out with Capoue, Holtby and Sandro(that we know of). He has also taken numerous pot shots at the squad's desire, professionalism and ability from the comfort of his pre/post-match interviews. I know who's side I'm taking.