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Anyone see this on Saints Web? It's from a poster called 'View from the Top' I don't the history of this poster but this is what was posted (I was just searching for any crumbs of information really, being retired and having rest from ice-hockey graphic creating for an hour or so):

[You] can take or leave what you're about to read as bull or not I'm just simply passing on what I've been told.

I have no contacts at Saints, none, they all retired long ago, but I do have friends that work at PL clubs in the Midlands and NW, in non playing/coaching roles but involved with players to a lesser or greater extent. It's from them this comes. Their record is good as they told me, and I posted on here, weeks in advance, of the Shaw amd Morgan deals.

I'm guessing gossip travels quickly around clubs as players tend to mix in tight circles.

There was, apparently, a huge bust up after the WBA game, in which senior pros let rip at both Puel and Black, accusing them of being clueless and not up to the job. It almost came to punches being thrown.

Some senior pros have told the club, either sort it out, which I assume means get rid of Puel, or the players will leave and some have already instructed agents to see what's available elsewhere. This is perhaps where the Long to WBA or Long to WHU stuff has come from that's been in the press, but I'm just guessing at that.

As a result the Chairman had to speak to the players en-mass before the Everton game (I don't know if this means on the day of the game or before they travelled).

During and after the Everton game players ignored the manager and Black was told, in no uncertain terms, where to get off by 2 internationals in the changing room. All this in the presence of the chairman.

Now I cannot say for certain this is what has happened only that it's the gossip doing the rounds up here.

I'm not one for changing managers mid-season but if even some of what has been said is true then Puel is in trouble.

As I've said, take it or leave it, call it bull, but it's what I've been told today.

While I don't believe for a minute it's true, some strange things have been happening recently. Kreuger being present in the dressing room for an away game, and Les Reed the same a few games ago, is odd. This story could have been fabricated using those incidents, or the incidents could be because the story is true. Would certainly make Puel's position almost untenable, and I'm in the 'give Puel more time' camp.

IF true, the players need to look at themselves as well. Puel deserves respect on a human level, as does everyone, let alone on a managerial level for being their superior. They haven't exactly been setting the world alight and can shoulder some of the blame. I would hope our senior players are far more professional than this.

I do however, believe it's probably bullshit, and would certainly like it to be.
 
Did he really have to search back 70 years to make his argument? Oh dear.
And remember that players used to play injured and often it finished their careers early. These players are worth millions, play at a high intensity and they can last into their thirties now with modern fitness and care. And the other problem with playing so many games is that there is no time for real training as they are usually in recovery from the previous match. If it happened once perhaps, but Saints have been playing a couple of games a week virtually since the beginning of the season. The man is a dinosaur.
 
http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/yoursay/..._blaming_results_on_lack_of_rest_for_players/

Oh Barrie, get to grips with modern football. The intensity they play at now is completely different to 50 odd years ago. Sports Science also wasn't around then either. People like that really frustrate me, just living in the past.

Watching old school football is sometimes good for a laugh. I watched some highlights from some Saints game from around 2001, which wasn't even that long ago. Every goal would be a total embarrassment if it was scored today. It's basically a different sport now.
 
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Watching old school football is sometimes good for a laugh. I watched some highlights from some Saints game from around 2001, which wasn't even that long ago. Every goal would be a total embarrassment if it was scored today. It's basically a different sport now.

wish people would realise that!
 
Sunday papers reporting that Guardiola has admitted he is finding the Premier league a challenge. Claude is having to ride a perfect storm of 3 top players sold,3 others out injured, team captain causing problems, first time in the main Euro League groups, he is new to League. Anything else Ive forgotten, fire, tempest, floods. Give the guy a break. We are struggling, not sinking down the league.
 
Watching old school football is sometimes good for a laugh. I watched some highlights from some Saints game from around 2001, which wasn't even that long ago. Every goal would be a total embarrassment if it was scored today. It's basically a different sport now.

Yep I reckon we'll all look back in fifteen years time and say how great all the goals were back then don't you?