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Saintmagic said:
This was my fear when TV money started increasing. To my understanding the reason we managed to sign a lot of the players we did was that we tended to bid more than other teams for them (Mane, Wanyama, VVD, Gaston off the top of my head). This made us the selling clubs preferred team as they got more money. This meant that we didn't have to compete with other clubs when it came to wages as we tend to offer less than our "rivals". With the TV money going up unless we switched our bidding in line with inflation or whatever you want to call it all the teams would match our offers and we would struggle to attract the players ahead of them as they offer more money.

I'm not really blaming the board about this, just saying that our old model of chucking a couple of mil onto what everyone else was willing to offer isn't going to work now as £20m isn't a big fee anymore. Times have changed from a few years ago and we need to either change with them or find a different model.
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It may apply in another situation but bids were accepted from both clubs so the choice here was clearly a personal preference by the player himself and as he came from the midlands and still has family there...
 
MLsfc said:
They are testament to the fact we can produce and nuture top young talent so worthwhile mentioning them.

Only player leicester have signed that has moved on to bigger and better things is Kante? Yes mahrez will this summer but it is pretty clear we are a better club than leicester to be at for young players wanting to develop.

I dont understand how anyone would disagree.
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Drinkwater went to Chelsea.
 
That's the sad reality, the likes of Leicester and Everton are just that bit more ambitious than we are these days, I can't see us knocking on the door of the CL again for the forseeable future, but tbh after last season I will take mid-table obscurity.
 
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Saints_Alive said:
That's the sad reality, the likes of Leicester and Everton are just that bit more ambitious than we are these days, I can't see us knocking on the door of the CL again for the forseeable future, but tbh after last season I will take mid-table obscurity.
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Aim for mid table, get relegation...
 
st_brendy said:
Welcome to football in 2018.

At some point, we might get with the times too. Maybe.
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Indeed. We signed Jay Rodriguez for £7m in 2012...from 2012-13 (or first season back) to 2016-17, our turnover increased by a little more than 2.5x, so a Jay Rodriguez would cost you £18m or more today. Maddison is a better prospect than Jay was, so the fee isn't excessive.

It isn't "football gone mad"; Maddison at £20m+ is entirely rational given the financial framework of today, because the value of the TV rights have exploded.
 
Schad said:
Indeed. We signed Jay Rodriguez for £7m in 2012...from 2012-13 (or first season back) to 2016-17, our turnover increased by a little more than 2.5x, so a Jay Rodriguez would cost you £18m or more today. Maddison is a better prospect than Jay was, so the fee isn't excessive.

It isn't "football gone mad"; Maddison at £20m+ is entirely rational given the financial framework of today, because the value of the TV rights have exploded.
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Yep. Paying an inflated price is no guarantee of getting the quality that a club has been looking for e.g Man U., Chelsea They have often paid mega money for players who have not then kept a 1st team spot.

Mmm, is that the fee paid issue............. or the Jose effect?
 
Dell1964 said:
Yep. Paying an inflated price is no guarantee of getting the quality that a club has been looking for e.g Man U., Chelsea They have often paid mega money for players who have not then kept a 1st team spot.

Mmm, is that the fee paid issue............. or the Jose effect?
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I'm saying that these are not inflated prices. These are entirely rational prices given club revenues today. And no, there are no guarantees that spending more will bring better players, but it's more likely that you'll get better players if you're willing to pay market price. There is a reason we once had some exceedingly good players, and there's a reason we do not have any now. We used to pay some large transfer fees given our station, and now we do not.
 
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Schad said:
I'm saying that these are not inflated prices. These are entirely rational prices given club revenues today. And no, there are no guarantees that spending more will bring better players, but it's more likely that you'll get better players if you're willing to pay. There is a reason we once had some exceedingly good players, and there's a reason we do not have any now. We used to pay some large transfer fees given our station, and now we do not.
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Agreed....... but how many times have Saints BROKEN their own transfer record in the last 3 or 4 seasons.
 
Dell1964 said:
Agreed....... but how many times have Saints BROKEN their own transfer record in the last 3 or 4 seasons.
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Every team has. When your revenues increase by 250% in five years, you're naturally going to break your transfer record on a near-yearly basis.

That said, the increases in our record fees haven't come close to matching the increase in our revenues. If they had kept up, our record fee would be around £30m.
 
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