Get nobody in. Should be an interesting season next year. I honestly thought that stoke fans were different than the others who when the going gets tough we just say sack the manager. How wrong I have been. Now I'm in the position where we sack the manager and lose the dead weight of negative fans, Mardarse fans and unrealistic fans. Please feel free to put yourselves into the appropriate group which suits yourselves. You really couldn't make it up. Hopefully we go down next season. I really hope so and give our position to a more fitting team. What a joke, you do know why we are called "supporters" don't you. 90 % of stoke fans are a disgrace to the club.
Sack hughes
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On reflection my view is the following, and for the record I'm not an advocate of sacking.
I never liked Pulis, but what he did and got out of the initial promotion team was genius. However at the end of his tenure, having spent and mis-spent significant amounts of money, the results didn't justify the inputs. He then got a season to put it right, which he arguably did everything he could to fight change. His departure was the right time, but I don't think Coates wanted to sack him, it was simply TP's God complex that made it untenable.
Fast forward Hughes, not my choice. Never committed to a club or proved consistency over a decent period - like I said above - TP was not planned as a sacking and Hughes was a forced decision.
Enter stage left. Hughes makes positive changes, spends some decent money making good and bad buys. Style changes and the results gets better with our best ever finishes justifying the man and the money - happy days.
After a positive start and a decent run in the 2016 season, the club were presented with a golden opportunity to have a legendary one of season of a life time AKA Leicester. We failed in that challenge which is acceptable in isolation. Whilst there were issues at hand, and the squad balance being called into question, Hughes deserved the opportunity to rectify the blip.
This season is factually the worst, but more importantly it's what's going on, on the pitch that is the issue - very similar to TP's final year. There seems no clear vision of tactics and apathetic under performing talent on the pitch and talent off the pitch being wasted or not wanted - hard to justify when your not getting the results.
Hughes has had his time, whether that justifies a sacking - I don't know? What I can say is that the club is not in a position to plan a change and that is negligent, and gets clubs relegated. If a change were to be made, it had to be now with a full summer for a new manager.
The biggest rule in business is never not make a decision. If you make a wrong one for the right reasons, so be it, but never hesitate and dither.
I never liked Pulis, but what he did and got out of the initial promotion team was genius. However at the end of his tenure, having spent and mis-spent significant amounts of money, the results didn't justify the inputs. He then got a season to put it right, which he arguably did everything he could to fight change. His departure was the right time, but I don't think Coates wanted to sack him, it was simply TP's God complex that made it untenable.
Fast forward Hughes, not my choice. Never committed to a club or proved consistency over a decent period - like I said above - TP was not planned as a sacking and Hughes was a forced decision.
Enter stage left. Hughes makes positive changes, spends some decent money making good and bad buys. Style changes and the results gets better with our best ever finishes justifying the man and the money - happy days.
After a positive start and a decent run in the 2016 season, the club were presented with a golden opportunity to have a legendary one of season of a life time AKA Leicester. We failed in that challenge which is acceptable in isolation. Whilst there were issues at hand, and the squad balance being called into question, Hughes deserved the opportunity to rectify the blip.
This season is factually the worst, but more importantly it's what's going on, on the pitch that is the issue - very similar to TP's final year. There seems no clear vision of tactics and apathetic under performing talent on the pitch and talent off the pitch being wasted or not wanted - hard to justify when your not getting the results.
Hughes has had his time, whether that justifies a sacking - I don't know? What I can say is that the club is not in a position to plan a change and that is negligent, and gets clubs relegated. If a change were to be made, it had to be now with a full summer for a new manager.
The biggest rule in business is never not make a decision. If you make a wrong one for the right reasons, so be it, but never hesitate and dither.
realistically we are in need of an overhaul, whether that includes the manager I don't know, we have too many players at the end of their careers and others underperforming. if we are going to replace the manager then it needs to be done quickly to get the new guy some time to settle but I would give him one more season to get back to where we were and inject some younger players into the squad over the old guard who have served us well but are now past their best.
Why would you sack Sparky ?? It's not as if you are a big team and a top 6 contender is it.....Beware what you wish for as you can do far worst than steady Sparky. His job is to keep you out of the bottom three and not reaching the top 6....He has done very well for you....
If that was the case then the board wouldn't have sacked Pulis. If your goal is to not get relegated you go to Big Sam or TP. Having finished 3 consecutive years in 9th and arguably last year could have been 7th or maybe even 6th I think it's fair to say we are a solid top 10 team. So finishing 16th with no siginificant cup runs on the money invested is not acceptable.
However that's not the main issue, the squad balance and the abject poor performances are.
However that's not the main issue, the squad balance and the abject poor performances are.
On another note I think Hughes is one of those managers that performs better over a shorter tenure. That's not a criticism just an observation.
I notice Watford are getting rid of their Manager, as he did not meet the clubs expectations. Their league position is not dissimilar to ours, and Bilic is likely to leave West Ham aswell.
I notice Watford are getting rid of their Manager, as he did not meet the clubs expectations. Their league position is not dissimilar to ours, and Bilic is likely to leave West Ham aswell.
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